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  • #21
    Originally posted by Sugarj View Post
    I wouldn't use the word 'pump' because it implies that a fair amount of face is excerted. Jones's punches in that round were used to dazzle and annoy.

    Flicker jabs can be used almost as feints, but contact can still be made with the opponent. They can be used almost as range finders (Lennox Lewis and Shane Mosley tended to paw with the lead hand to set up right counters, but I wouldn't classify these as flicker jabs). Likewise, Donny Lalonde's waving of the left hand in his fight with Ray Leonard is another bad example.

    A good example would be in the 5th round of Nazeem Hamed's fight with Jose Badillo, just after he turned on the crazy showboating. Check out 1:35 - 1:30 of that round.
    thanks that's exactly what I needed

    I had no idea on what it looks like, so I wouldn't have been able to spot it just by reading descriptions. A video with specific time is perfect

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    • #22
      Carl Froch, especially the Abraham fight. Half the jabs he pokes out look like range finders.
      Last edited by Rastamouse; 09-27-2011, 06:42 AM.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by New England View Post
        martinez is right handed

        he's got a very hard jab. it can snap a guy's head back (and he's recently started to implement it more often, especially against other southpaws.) you can hear that thing land from the back row of the building.


        i don't know why anybody would think a "flicker" jab is simply a jab that comes from the waist or the low chest
        there's a name for that
        it's called an "upjab"



        a flicker jab in my opinion is a jab that doesn't get stepped into properly and lacks the snap at the end.
        it's just sort of a glove getting moved out there with the shoulder and pulled back. see shane mosley. see andre berto. the elbow usually isn't up, the knuckles usually aren't what's addressing the target, and there is basically no snap through the target. sometimes they can look like backhands or pawing.

        the power on a jab is generated by stepping forward off of your back foot. guys with sound footwork and balance usually have good jabs (guys not named jermain taylor, who had a telephone pole jab and horrible footwork ^^ )

        if you're jabbing properly you don't flick your jab out. you step into it and make it snap when it hits your target. ali had a ton of snap on his jab
        and you know he was stepping into it (in his prime, his style was largely characterized by circling to his left. for an orthodox fighter this is the direction where your jab will lead you.)
        Martinez has a decent jab but he doesnt use it for power most of the time. Thats why it was such such a shock to most that he out jabbed Dizzy. The fights before it was just a blinder to set up that left.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by studentofthegam View Post
          Martinez has a decent jab but he doesnt use it for power most of the time. Thats why it was such such a shock to most that he out jabbed Dizzy. The fights before it was just a blinder to set up that left.


          the left is actually the newest addition to his game. he's left hand crazy now that he's scored a truly historic class one punch knockout with it. and paul williams had a very good chin.

          his biggest punch (and the shot that he did his best work again pavlik and williams in their first fight) used to be his right hook.
          he used to move around the ring with his hands down and look for spots to flurry/throw combinations with his right hook being his biggest punch.

          the left hand was usually just a small part of his combinations
          now he's unbelievably confident with it.


          he's had better angles for the jab recently because he's fought guys (other than pavlik) that were left handed
          dzinziruk
          williams twice

          he's always had a hard jab, but he's a southpaw, and when he's against a right handed opponent he's likely to take the road more often traveled and dispense with the jab and lead with the left hand

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