Biggest Waste Of Potential/Talent EVER?

[Scott9945]

Yeah his dad was a big fuukk up for him. His dad was quite a fighter himself but the skills didn't translate well. I still remember the contrast. Roger in Floyd's corner telling him something very specific....like to move left to counter Zab's speed, or somethin like that. meanwhile Yoel J is spitting throwing his hands yelling something at his son Zab...."hit him!!!! boom boomboomm arghh"!

You know what? much like Roy with the right evil genius Judah could have learned to protect his chin, it wasn't god awful or anything. Judah could have been offensive enough to make guys have to worry about defense.

Zab will probably fight again for a title...I *****e you not. Everytime I write him off as a gatekeeper, which is really what he has been for most of his career, he gets a shot at the gold ring. But when Kahn has an easy time of it, the blueprint is out on ya.

Judah is fighting Malignaggi in December. If he wins (and he certainly could), he'll get another title fight for sure.

[billeau2]

This reminds me of how overrated Judah has always been. He had fast hands and very good power, but an ATG?

Human beings are really quite the optimists aren't they? The Jesuits thought they could convert every chinaman and every boxing pundit swoons when they see a fighter with real bona fide natural superhuman attributes..... The power of Wilder, the reach of Williams, and of course....the raw speed and power of Zab Judah. And after it became common knowledge that Zab would be finished fighting after the fifth round....courtesy of a meltdown, a lack of adjustment, or (as much as I hate to say it) just a lack of intelligence.....There was always a stable of a few hard core Zaba daba Juders who would say again and again "oh its gonna come together because Zab is so talented."

Well through it all, considering the comp in his general weight class, and considering that he has been a champ at times, I guess sometimes Zab does manage to pull it together....But Corey Spinks is no Zoo or Mayweather. Zab has managed to be a great gate keeper but not an ATG.....what a shame though there is no question that he had the raw physical ability to be one in spades.

[New England]

Odlanier Solis is the greatest amateur heavyweight to ever turn pro, and he's done little as a professional. What is this thread about?

do you actually believe that, or did you hear it somewhere and repeat it?


this thread's intent is to generate discussion on the biggest ever waste of talent in boxing. they've been boxing under queensbury rules for well over a century now.

odlanier solis?

[Ben Bolt]

Solis is a good pick, though.

But it seems he is also one of these Cuban refugees who haven’t been able to handle all the temptations he has found in his new country. Forsaking training for a good life.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Honestly,, Rid**** bowe has to be at the top of the list,,

the dude had the potential to be on that foreman, frazier, marciano, dempsey type level, and though he was undisputed champ, it went all down hill after that,,,

he could have been an ATG, but instead is just a footnote in history

[Ben Bolt]

Continuing the Cuban thread …

Has anyone mentioned ‘Teofilo Stevenson, never turning pro’?

(Though, an outstanding amateur doesn’t automatically mean an outstanding pro. If we list the amateur top ten ATG, we would have Mark Breland on that list, but his achievement as a pro is almost forgotten now).

[Cardinal Buck]

do you actually believe that, or did you hear it somewhere and repeat it?


this thread's intent is to generate discussion on the biggest ever waste of talent in boxing. they've been boxing under queensbury rules for well over a century now.

odlanier solis?

It's no contest. He's the best amateur heavy to turn pro by a lot. I shouldn't have to explain that. Second would probably be Biggs who I listed already.

Edit: Cammarelle will probably be number two once he turns pro.

[billeau2]

Continuing the Cuban thread …

Has anyone mentioned ‘Teofilo Stevenson, never turning pro’?

(Though, an outstanding amateur doesn’t automatically mean an outstanding pro. If we list the amateur top ten ATG, we would have Mark Breland on that list, but his achievement as a pro is almost forgotten now).

I thought about it....In my opinion Mr Stevenson has the honors as potentially the greatest fighter ever. But he did establish himself and was a champion. There were times when the Olympics had some good fighters along with the ordinary.

[billeau2]

Judah is fighting Malignaggi in December. If he wins (and he certainly could), he'll get another title fight for sure.

lol And watch....all the punditry will declare the speed and prowess of the Zab.... And who knows? he managed spinks who was a technical powder puffer....why nt paulie?

[The Iron Man]

Ike Ibeabuchi comes to mind for me as well.