20 Billion: Top 20 Filmed Fighters of the last 80 years

[BigStereotype]

Marco Antonio Barrera

Top-5 Wins (87.6)
Marco Antonio Barrera
Erik Morales x2: 93, 92
Naseem Hamed: 90
Kennedy McKinney: 83
Johnny Tapia: 80

Dominance: 88
Style: 92
Consistency: 86
Longevity: 94
Grade: 88.56

[IronDanHamza]

Carlos Ortiz

Top Five Wins (90.4)
Kenny Lane: 90
Dave Charnley: 88
Duilio Loi: 93
Flash Elorde: 89
Sugar Ramos: 92

Dominance: 94
Style: 90
Consistency: 90
Longevity: 93
Grade: 91.87

Swap Kenny Lane and Dave Charnley with Ismael Laguna and Joe Brown.

These two ATG Lightweights have to be amongst Ortiz' best wins.

Kenny Lane and Dave Charnley were good fighters but not compared to ATG Lightweights like Laguna and Brown.

[BigStereotype]

Swap Kenny Lane and Dave Charnley with Ismael Laguna and Joe Brown.

These two ATG Lightweights have to be amongst Ortiz' best wins.

Kenny Lane and Dave Charnley were good fighters but not compared to ATG Lightweights like Laguna and Brown.

Oh ok. When I'm not as familiar as fighters as I should be (and I'll be honest, 50's-60's lightweights are a BIG weak spot for me), I go on boxrec, find the ten or so highest rated fighters and go through those guys' win-loss records. If I made a mistake, I'll correct it.

EDIT: I remember the specific reason I put Lane in there, though. He was the defending champ, Ortiz was like fifteen years old and he knocked him out in two (i think)

[IronDanHamza]

Oh ok. When I'm not as familiar as fighters as I should be (and I'll be honest, 50's-60's lightweights are a BIG weak spot for me), I go on boxrec, find the ten or so highest rated fighters and go through those guys' win-loss records. If I made a mistake, I'll correct it.

You have alot to chose from with Carlos Oritz. The more I think about it the more I think he could be clased as argubally the greatest Lightweight of all time, seriously.

His Top wins include;

Joe Brown
Ismael Laguna x2
Flash Elorde x2
Duilo Loi
Sugar Ramos x2
Nicolino Locche*

And that's just the HOF'ers and ATG's he beat.

Other excellent wins over Top ranked opposition include;

Battling Torres
Kenny Lane x2
Johnny Busso
Douglas Valiant

etc etc etc

[BigStereotype]

You have alot to chose from with Carlos Oritz. The more I think about it the more I think he could be clased as argubally the greatest Lightweight of all time, seriously.

His Top wins include;

Joe Brown
Ismael Laguna x2
Flash Elorde x2
Duilo Loi
Sugar Ramos x2
Nicolino Locche*

And that's just the HOF'ers and ATG's he beat.

Other excellent wins over Top ranked opposition include;

Battling Torres
Kenny Lane x2
Johnny Busso
Douglas Valiant

etc etc etc

He was quite a fighter. I only saw limited films, but he was so fast. You don't often hear too much about a right to the body, but his was real real quick and he threw it a lot. I don't know if I'd say GOAT lightweight, though. My rankings actually have him higher than Duran, but I would put Duran above him if I was just going to arrange them without the numbers. Duran took everyone in his weight class and smashed them.

[Toney616]

Nice work Stereo. When I finish reading the whole thing ill let you know what I think

[BigStereotype]

1. Did we ever vote on the 20 Billion point contest? If so, who won?
2. Would anyone be interested in me starting this up again? I just read through it, and I must say, I think I had a pretty good idea here.

[Barn]

1. Did we ever vote on the 20 Billion point contest? If so, who won?
2. Would anyone be interested in me starting this up again? I just read through it, and I must say, I think I had a pretty good idea here.

1. Good question, I can't remember if IronDanHamza won it for the Cocoa Kid thread or that was the 1 billion contest. I think it was and for the 20 billion one. Anyone who made a thread was given 1 billion as not enough were made.

2. Yeah it's a good idea, would be a good idea to start it up again and other people can join in!

[BigStereotype]

1. Good question, I can't remember if IronDanHamza won it for the Cocoa Kid thread or that was the 1 billion contest. I think it was and for the 20 billion one. Anyone who made a thread was given 1 billion as not enough were made.

2. Yeah it's a good idea, would be a good idea to start it up again and other people can join in!

Good enough for me! My computer access is sort of limited, but I'll start back up on doing this ASAP.

If anyone wants to give it a crack, I more than welcome it. Just please try and make sure you use the same weightings that I do or it could get out of hand quick.

[Barn]

Good enough for me! My computer access is sort of limited, but I'll start back up on doing this ASAP.

If anyone wants to give it a crack, I more than welcome it. Just please try and make sure you use the same weightings that I do or it could get out of hand quick.

real quick!

this is my system. chin - 80%, being 2 handed 20%

1. marvin hagler