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  • IronDanHamza
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    #231
    Originally posted by Barnburner
    Is that unpopular?

    I thought it was reasonable too.
    I thought the stoppage was fine.

    Alvarado was out on his feet getting pummelled.

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    • billeau2
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      #232
      Originally posted by Scott9945
      Not to mention the difference between fighting top amateurs and top professionals.
      Yeah but......the difference is less like the champion major league team versus the top triple A team, where by the major league team is just Better than the difference between a top college football team and top NFL team where there are differences in the game more than the actual skill level.

      Olympic fighting takes accuracy, you have to do your thang quickly, and there is a correlation between olympic and professional success. Of course any Olympic guy would need a bit of training to adjust but I think that is ultimately a minor thing when considering the skill level(s) involved.

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      • Cardinal Buck
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        #233
        The 80s, 90s, and 00s heavyweights were better than the 70s heavyweights.

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        • tonyjones
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          #234
          The Judah mathysse result was fair I didn't see no robbery

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          • BennyST
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            #235
            Originally posted by tonyjones
            The Judah mathysse result was fair I didn't see no robbery
            I think that is just one of those current popular trends. Everyone is riding high on Matthyse and can't possibly believe that Judah could actually have beaten this super beast, and they heard it was a close fight, so it becomes a robbery instead and just builds into "Judah didn't land a single punch and Matthyse just beat him up, hurt him with every shot, knocked him down, took his soul.....then got robbed blind!"

            Judah squeaking that one out was not only justified, it was a perfectly fine decision. Matthyse lost a lot of early rounds, started too slow and learnt from it. He's now a much better fighter, but Judah winning that fight was fine.

            It was close, but I think it would have been wrong/worse if Matthyse had gotten the decision.

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            • Barn
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              #236
              Originally posted by BennyST
              I think that is just one of those current popular trends. Everyone is riding high on Matthyse and can't possibly believe that Judah could actually have beaten this super beast, and they heard it was a close fight, so it becomes a robbery instead and just builds into "Judah didn't land a single punch and Matthyse just beat him up, hurt him with every shot, knocked him down, took his soul.....then got robbed blind!"

              Judah squeaking that one out was not only justified, it was a perfectly fine decision. Matthyse lost a lot of early rounds, started too slow and learnt from it. He's now a much better fighter, but Judah winning that fight was fine.

              It was close, but I think it would have been wrong/worse if Matthyse had gotten the decision.
              I disagree I thought Matthysse clearly did enough to win by 2 points.

              I'll score it again sometime though.

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              • Bolo Punch
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                #237
                I watched it about a month ago and thought Matthysse won, but it was a close fight.

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                • BennyST
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                  #238
                  Originally posted by Barnburner
                  I disagree I thought Matthysse clearly did enough to win by 2 points.

                  I'll score it again sometime though.
                  Yeah, like I said, it was close and either guy winning was justified but to call it a robbery is crazy. No matter who you scored it for, apart from some of those bias knobs, it's always a 1 or 2 point max fight. That's close, and a lot of rounds were close so there could be a few swing rounds.

                  I'll have to check it out again though too.

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                  • Scott9945
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                    #239
                    Originally posted by BennyST
                    Yeah, like I said, it was close and either guy winning was justified but to call it a robbery is crazy. No matter who you scored it for, apart from some of those bias knobs, it's always a 1 or 2 point max fight. That's close, and a lot of rounds were close so there could be a few swing rounds.

                    I'll have to check it out again though too.

                    I also had Matthyesse winning, but it wasn't a robbery like his hometown loss to Devon Alexander.

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                    • BennyST
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                      #240
                      Originally posted by Scott9945
                      I also had Matthyesse winning, but it wasn't a robbery like his hometown loss to Devon Alexander.
                      That fight was a disgrace. A clear win for Matthyse. He had obviously learned from his Judah loss and started earlier, but Alexander has 'good' people backing him.

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