Comeback George Foreman vs. Current Vitali

[New England]

Don't make me laugh. I've seen nearly all of his fights of relevance from 2000 till now. And just because his defense isn't absolutely ****ty doesn't mean it's good. He gets hit PLENTY.

And you're right, he probably is getting into the HOF...on his brother's back, most likely, seeing as how when you look at his resume, it's almost laughable.

and who outside of soils (who was later stopped in round one, and certainly didn't do enough to prove much of anything)
corrie sanders (who was eventually stopped as well, stopped doing much of anything late and took a beating)
arreola (who didn't even hit him much considering how aggressive he was, also stopped)
and lewis (honest to goodness loss. protect your face from getting ripped to pieces, vitali. that's your job.)

would you cite as guys who "hit klitschko plenty"
and proved his defense to be poor or so much less than average, as you would lead on?


danny williams?
sam peter?
kirk johnson?
juan carlos gomez?
kevin johnson?
shannon the cannon?

they barely put a glove on him, dude. what fights are you talking about?
i'm not saying he's a monster.
i'm saying that your vision of him going out there and regularly taking lots of punishment and being relatively easy to hit in all of his fights is silly

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and who outside of soils (who was later stopped in round one)
corrie sanders (who was eventually stopped as well, stopped doing much of anything late and took a beating)
arreola (who didn't even hit him much considering how aggressive he was, also stopped)
and lewis (honest to goodness loss. protect your face from getting ripped to pieces, vitali. that's your job.)

would you cite as guys who "hit klitschko plenty"
and proved his defense to be poor or so much less than average, as you would lead on?


danny williams?
sam peter?
kirk johnson?
juan carlos gomez?
kevin johnson?
shannon the cannon?

they barely put a glove on him, dude. what fights are you talking about?
i'm not saying he's a monster.
i'm saying that your vision of him going out there and regularly taking lots of punishment and being relatively easy to hit in all of his fights is silly

Notice something about the two lists you put up? It separates the still decent fighters from the fat, washed up ones. Think about it. Yeah, Antonio Margarito barely got hit by Six Heads, Cintron the second time and Golden Johnson. Doesn't mean squat. In Vitali's case, half the guys you mention him not getting hit against are the ones who were too busy peeing in their pants. Of course, they didn't realize they were doing that with their guts in the way and all.

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A punch on the jaw doesn't generally cause a cut above the eyebrow.

Yeah because George can only land on the jaw, nowhere else.

[nomadman]

Yeah because George can only land on the jaw, nowhere else.

And Vitali blocks every punch thrown at him with his face.

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And Vitali blocks every punch thrown at him with his face.

George wouldn't have to land every punch thrown, now would he? Do you even have a point to your argument anymore?

[New England]

Notice something about the two lists you put up? It separates the still decent fighters from the fat, washed up ones. Think about it. Yeah, Antonio Margarito barely got hit by Six Heads, Cintron the second time and Golden Johnson. Doesn't mean squat. In Vitali's case, half the guys you mention him not getting hit against are the ones who were too busy peeing in their pants. Of course, they didn't realize they were doing that with their guts in the way and all.

that doesn't say something about his whole career dude
one round against soils?
really you're basing anything off of that? he knocked soils out in that same round, dude. his legs were all over the ****ing place, injury or otherwise.
next,
sanders, who had a few flashes in their fight (and was a very talented offensive fighter, for the record) and was otherwise dominated (and unable to mount any offense?)
or arreola?
he literally didn't hit vitali with more than a few significant punches. that fight was only fun/ seemingly competitive because arreola is all heart and impossible not to root for


and lewis
well he's a HOFer and a brutish puncher, so getting your face ****ed up by him puts your in some pretty damn good company.


so i'm done addressing what you're clearly not willing to see
vitali is not easy to hit or defensively deficient to the degree you're asserting, and you cant show me anything to prove otherwise.

[nomadman]

George wouldn't have to land every punch thrown, now would he? Do you even have a point to your argument anymore?

I mentioned my point earlier. That if Vitali gets facial damage it'll more likely be via an accumulation of jabs, not a single right hand which, due to the height difference, he'd have to throw as an overhand, and which I doubt he'd be able to land with any regularity due to its slowness.

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that doesn't say something about his whole career dude
one round against soils?
really you're basing anything off of that? he knocked soils out in that same round, dude. his legs were all over the ****ing place, injury or otherwise.
next,
sanders, who had a few flashes in their fight (and was a very talented offensive fighter, for the record) and was otherwise dominated (and unable to mount any offense?)
or arreola?
he literally didn't hit vitali with more than a few significant punches. that fight was only fun/ seemingly competitive because arreola is all heart and impossible not to root for


and lewis
well he's a HOFer and a brutish puncher, so getting your face ****ed up by him puts your in some pretty damn good company.


so i'm done addressing what you're clearly not willing to see
vitali is not easy to hit or defensively deficient to the degree you're asserting, and you cant show me anything to prove otherwise.

The mere fact that he's been tagged by any halfway decent fighter he's faced is proof for me. Or did you think showing his defensive prowess against a curled up in a fetal position fighter named Kevin Johnson proves something?

[IMDAZED]

I mentioned my point earlier. That if Vitali gets facial damage it'll more likely be via an accumulation of jabs, not a single right hand which, due to the height difference, he'd have to throw as an overhand, and which I doubt he'd be able to land with any regularity due to its slowness.

So your point is he can only be cut with the jab because the right hand is too slow? Ok.

[New England]

The mere fact that he's been tagged by any halfway decent fighter he's faced is proof for me. Or did you think showing his defensive prowess against a curled up in a fetal position fighter named Kevin Johnson proves something?

you're blaming klitschko for that?
or citing it as evidence that he "Gets hit plenty" in all of his fights?

kevin johnson "hit him plenty?"


and "halfway decent fighters" like lennox lewis hit guys
it happens to the best of them