Sometimes I Wonder Why Did Roy Ever Waste His Time Fighting Fighters Like.....

[Vadrigar.]

Exactly, there are no unified rules when it comes to testing. In this instance, NY began testing in 2002. And again, what applies to Jones applies to everyone. Funny how as soon as they began testing a rash of people went under . There's no doubt in my mind Jones, Toney and most of their opponents were heavy juicers.

Some states already test boxers for steroids but not regularly, said Jordan, who believes it is possible that other states might follow New York's lead. The rule will not apply to amateurs.

Was indiana included for the states which did non regular testing?

[IMDAZED]

Was indiana included for the states which did non regular testing?

I don't know but I'd like to hear him define "non regular" first.

[Vadrigar.]

He gave Roy a beating in the first fight and could of koed him if he really went for it

It was a close fight, could have gone either way but Roy but pulled out the victory in the later rounds. He was beaten against the ropes though.

Koed him in two rounds in the second fight

Beat him by wide ud and had him hurt badly during the 10 round (not sure which round exactly)

Tarver was the better fighter (in 2004)

I don't think you catch my point. Tarver proved he was a better fighter in 2004 but there's no way of knowing if he was a better fighter, period. They never fought in their primes.

[Toney616]

When a fighter goes form enhanced to natural his performance slips. That's my point. Also you don't factually know what times he was on or off.

He wouldn't of been on it for Harmon and Gonzalez

[Toney616]

i've searched up an interview with hall on the situation, says roy was "very cooperative"
http://www.braggingrightscorner.com/sarajhall2.html

i dont know if that site is to be trusted tho

I think the sites on the level. ************* had an interview with Hall as well and he said basically the same thing as he did in Braggingrights

[Toney616]

If no one in boxing was testing for steroids until 2002, how did he fail a test in 2000?

Because the state of Indiana were ahead of the times and had just started their own pilot drug testing scheme. Which is why Jones got caught, because he didn't know his urine sample was going to get tested for steroids, he would of thought it would of only got tested for stimulants and recreational drugs.

[Vadrigar.]

He wouldn't of been on it for Harmon and Gonzalez

Again you can't know this for sure.

[SplitSecond]

i thought he was still pretty beastly in the gonzalez fight

[Toney616]

Again you can't know this for sure.

It would of been pretty damn ****** of him to use steroids for those two fights, seeing as how the agreement he came to with the Indiana state was that they were going to test him for those two fights.

[Toney616]

It was a close fight, could have gone either way but Roy but pulled out the victory in the later rounds. He was beaten against the ropes though.

I agree it was a close fight.

I don't think you catch my point. Tarver proved he was a better fighter in 2004 but there's no way of knowing if he was a better fighter, period. They never fought in their primes.

He wasn't the better fighter, he just had the style to give Jones fits.