Agree Or Disagree, Roy Jones Jr Top 30 ATG?

[Vadrigar.]

Why has nobody mentioned his win over Antonio Tarver?

[Daddy T]

The problem with jones is skill wise he easily top ten (just look at that display v Toney) but achievement wise he's not. All in all I'd have him squeezing into the top 30 ATG I mean middle/supermiddle/lightheavy/heavyweight champ is impressive(though that was only a version of the heavyweight title and not the linear one). But wins v top european guys like Collins/Eubank/Benn/Michalczewski/Calzaghe(when jones was prime) to completely dominate the weights are glaringly absent, he would have beaten them all but bottom line is he didn't (imagine if those names were on his resume instead of a bunch of contenders that nobody remembers - the guy really would be a legend)... there should have been a hopkins rematch - a superfight when hopkins was a prime long reigning middleweight champ that would have been massive ... But I think the Michalczewski one is most telling ... clearly the number two lightheavy for years during jones's era of dominance and yet jones never got it on with him to prove he really was top dog. That 'he won't come out of Germany' crap is weak he should have gone into the guys backyard and wooped him good (I bet he regrets not doing so) Maybe I'm asking a bit much of him and maybe the other guys didn't bend over backwards to make the fights but when your talking about a guy wanting to be called an ATG it is right to ask a lot of them.

[lazy]

There is alot of greats, not enough room for all the deserve it! I have 50 in my top 30 alone!

[SCtrojansbaby]

The problem with jones is skill wise he could even be top ten (just look at that display v Toney) but achievement wise he's not. All in all I'd have him squeezing into the top 30 ATG I mean middle/supermiddle/lightheavy/heavyweight champ is impressive(though that was only a version of the heavyweight title and not the linear one). But wins v top european guys like Collins/Eubank/Benn/Michalczewski/Calzaghe(when jones was prime) to completely dominate the weights are glaringly absent, he would have beaten them all but bottom line is he didn't (imagine if those names were on his resume instead of a bunch of contenders that nobody remembers - the guy really would be a legend)... there should have been a hopkins rematch - a superfight when hopkins was a prime long reigning middleweight champ that would have been massive ... But I think the Michalczewski one is most telling ... clearly the number two lightheavy for years during jones's era of dominance and yet jones never got it on with him to prove he really was top dog. That 'he won't come out of Germany' crap is weak he should have gone into the guys backyard and wooped him good (I bet he regrets not doing so) Maybe I'm asking a bit much of him and maybe the other guys didn't bend over backwards to make the fights but when your talking about a guy wanting to be called an ATG it is right to ask a lot of them.

I am the biggest Hopkins fan but her priced himself out of a rematch with Roy everybody knows that.

Oh and the Europe vs Roy fights were never going to happen. All those guys were making tons of $$$ in their respective markets and Roy was making tons in the US there was no incentive for them to fight each other.

I also think its funny that people on one hand cry about Roy not fighting Dariusz yet you people don't give Roy any credit for shutting out Julio Cesar Gonzalez the first man to beat Dariusz

[JAB5239]

LOL you can't be serious thinking Spinks fought better competition then Roy.

Its not even fair to compare them Roy had twice as many fights obviously he is going to have fought WAY better competition.

My man, you gotta do some serious homework on Spinks. Mustafa Muhammad, Lopez, Marvin Johnson and Qawi are all better than ANYONE Jones beat at 175. Holmes is 10x better than Ruiz was.

[The_Demon]

Roy is in my top five

You are welcome too your opinion,but i really was'nt surprised too see you in the red

[JAB5239]

Gotta disagree there. It shows how wrong sanc bodies can be as, on merit, Hopkins was no #1 yet. Ring had him barely top ten and were right. Middleweight was still solid then (92-93) with Julian Jackson, Gerald McClellan, Reggie Johnson, and John David Jackson all still big factors.

I have to concede the division, you're right. But I certainly don't think Hop was prime for the first Jones fight.

[SCtrojansbaby]

My man, you gotta do some serious homework on Spinks. Mustafa Muhammad, Lopez, Marvin Johnson and Qawi are all better than ANYONE Jones beat at 175. Holmes is 10x better than Ruiz was.

Qawi, Muhammad, Marvin Johnson and Yaqui Lopez are not any better then Montel Griffin, Mike McCullum, Antonio Tarver and Virgil Hill not to mention those Hall Famers Roy beat I think there names are Bernard Hopkins and James Toney

LOL I am done with you.

[JAB5239]

Qawi, Muhammad, Marvin Johnson and Yaqui Lopez are not any better then Montel Griffin, Mike McCullum, Antonio Tarver and Virgil Hill not to mention those Hall Famers Roy beat I think there names are Bernard Hopkins and James Toney

LOL I am done with you.

40 yer old McCallum? Griffin? Tarver who put Roy to sleep and had him fighting scared? A green Hopkins? A weight drained Toney?

Do your homework son. Spinks was the dominant force in a very tough light heavyweight era. Jones era at 175 was borderline dismal.

Yeah, you're done alright!

[SCtrojansbaby]

40 yer old McCallum? Griffin? Tarver who put Roy to sleep and had him fighting scared? A green Hopkins? A weight drained Toney?

Do your homework son. Spinks was the dominant force in a very tough light heavyweight era. Jones era at 175 was borderline dismal.

Yeah, you're done alright!

LOL yeah excuse excuse excuse, as I said you'll believe what you want