Agree Or Disagree, Roy Jones Jr Top 30 ATG?

[New England]

Based on resume and quality of wins I am confident I could compile a list of 30 fighters who should rank higher all time than Jones, so my answer is a resounding no.

you sir are asking the right questing and going about this in the right way



30 men have done more

at least 30



edit: i thought i was in nsb for some reason.... the bruins won the cup last night, so i'm not the clearest right now.


it think everybody here agrees that jones really isn't in the top 30 in terms of his accomplishments
to win his "world title" at h - dub he beat john ruiz..


he's certainly in the top 30 in terms of talent, though

[cja07007]

You may be able to claim 30 men have done more but I cant think of 30 that were on the same level of ability as Roy. Watching a prime Roy fight is something that amazes me every time I watch it. When I just think of the best fighters Ive ever seen as in terms of what they can do in the ring in on a given night Jones has got to be top 5 at least for me.

[SCtrojansbaby]

His resume is not in par with the fighters you named.

Hopkins was not prime.

Jones was legitimately losing to Montell Griffin when he was DQ'd.

LMAO you are a joke go watch the fight Griffin wouldn't have made it out of the 9th round

Also B-Hop was 28 and went undefeated for the next 13 years LOL if that isn't prime then what the hell is?

[JAB5239]

You may be able to claim 30 men have done more but I cant think of 30 that were on the same level of ability as Roy. Watching a prime Roy fight is something that amazes me every time I watch it. When I just think of the best fighters Ive ever seen as in terms of what they can do in the ring in on a given night Jones has got to be top 5 at least for me.

That is why we look at quality of opposition. Jones was a wonderful fighter and as gifted as anybody I've ever seen.But I doubt he looks nearly as dominant against Micheal Spinks competition as he did against his own. And that he didn't fight that type of competition is why he cannot be rated so highly.

[JAB5239]

LMAO you are a joke go watch the fight Griffin wouldn't have made it out of the 9th round

Also B-Hop was 28 and went undefeated for the next 13 years LOL if that isn't prime then what the hell is?

Lol, Im a joke? Im not the one in the red who makes regular claims he can't back up. The facts are the Jones was coming on at the time of the DQ, but had been out fought and out landed for the vast majority of the fight. By the way, Im still waiting on that proof of Whitaker ducking Quartey and Tito. I noticed you ran away when it came to providing actual evidence.

And Hopkins probably hit his prime about the time of the Jackson and Johnson fights. Certainly it wasn't in his 24th fight with hardly an amateur career to speak of. Get a clue son, get a clue.

[The_Demon]

Disagree,he's top 50

[IMDAZED]

I've never made a list that long so I'll defer to those who do. But to me, he's the best fighter I've ever seen in my lifetime. I'd say Top 30 works just fine but again, I might feel different after creating a list.

[SCtrojansbaby]

Lol, Im a joke? Im not the one in the red who makes regular claims he can't back up. The facts are the Jones was coming on at the time of the DQ, but had been out fought and out landed for the vast majority of the fight. By the way, Im still waiting on that proof of Whitaker ducking Quartey and Tito. I noticed you ran away when it came to providing actual evidence.

And Hopkins probably hit his prime about the time of the Jackson and Johnson fights. Certainly it wasn't in his 24th fight with hardly an amateur career to speak of. Get a clue son, get a clue.

Yes you're a joke the fight at best was a draw and as I said Griffin wouldn't have made it out of the 9th.

LOL as I said before you don't want proof. Even if Pernell Whitaker came to your house and told you himself you wouldn't care you are one of those people who believes only what supports their opinion/agenda

If 28 years old with 23 fights isn't prime then what the hell is? Why was B-Hop fighting for a title against Roy if he wasn't in his prime?

Oh and except for Tyson, Roy Jones quality of competition is greater then Michael Spinks and its not even really close

[IMDAZED]

Yes you're a joke the fight at best was a draw and as I said Griffin wouldn't have made it out of the 9th.

LOL as I said before you don't want proof. Even if Pernell Whitaker came to your house and told you himself you wouldn't care you are one of those people who believes only what supports their opinion/agenda

If 28 years old with 23 fights isn't prime then what the hell is? Why was B-Hop fighting for a title against Roy if he wasn't in his prime?

Oh and except for Tyson, Roy Jones quality of competition is greater then Michael Spinks and its not even really close

Hopkins was actually the #1 contender for the vacant IBF crown, Roy was #2. I think it's unfair to say Hopkins was in his prime but anyone who watched Jones could tell he wasn't in his prime either. Hopkins was at his peak around 1997-2000...and so was Roy. I believe the result would've been the same (probably even wider in Jones' favor). That said, I give full credit to Roy - I don't view either as being in their prime and no one was able to accomplish what Jones did (beating Hops) for at least 12 years (maybe more or never).

[JAB5239]

Yes you're a joke the fight at best was a draw and as I said Griffin wouldn't have made it out of the 9th.

He wouldn't have made it out of the 9th is an ASSumption. That Jones legitimately lost is a FACT. Guess who the joke is on?

LOL as I said before you don't want proof. Even if Pernell Whitaker came to your house and told you himself you wouldn't care you are one of those people who believes only what supports their opinion/agenda

People who have agenda's are the one's who refuse to show proof. I want to see it. Give me some proof and I'll give you 4 billion points. I know you won't do it because you CAN'T do it.

If 28 years old with 23 fights isn't prime then what the hell is? Why was B-Hop fighting for a title against Roy if he wasn't in his prime?

23 fights with hardly any amateur career to speak of is called inexperienced, not prime. And the fact that he was fighting for the IBF paper title just shows how weak the division was.