Shane Mosley Vs prenell Whitaker

[New England]

Shane doesn't have a problem with guys who move he has a problem with big guys who move. Shane(along with Edwin Valero) is IMO the hardest puncher to ever grace the lightweight I think its a 50/50 fight with Shane winning by KO or Pernell getting a decision.

the same edwin valero who hit antonio demarco with his best punches for 9 rounds?

the same edwin valero who only fought 60 rounds as a pro, and nobody better than demarco?

you're making an assessment of all time great talent based on that?

you 've got to be joking

i was big on valero
i thought he was a very underrated ring technician. in the amateurs he had a reputation as a classic make you miss type boxer.
his power was honestly not that special at LW


oscar de la hoya was a much better puncher at LW than either man
you can ask common de la hoya - mosley opponents
or just see it, because it's blatantly obvious.


jesse james leija fought both men
and he said the difference between the two is that oscar punches like a heavyweight


but of course you make it a habit of being wrong as humanly possible

so cong**** on parring the course lol!





whitaker in a drubbing
shane's durable enough to make a stoppage virtually impossible
but he's not banking many rounds, if any.

[The Surgeon]

Mosley gets gassed out at lightweight.

Disagree. Mosley had an excellent engine back then

[SCtrojansbaby]

the same edwin valero who hit antonio demarco with his best punches for 9 rounds?

the same edwin valero who only fought 60 rounds as a pro, and nobody better than demarco?

you're making an assessment of all time great talent based on that?

you 've got to be joking

i was big on valero
i thought he was a very underrated ring technician. in the amateurs he had a reputation as a classic make you miss type boxer.
his power was honestly not that special at LW

but of course you make it a habit of being wrong as humanly possible

so cong**** on parring the course lol!

ummm Valero stopped Demarco. Also WTF makes you think those were his best shots did you not notice the gigantic cut Valero had that was clearly bothering him.

Valero knocked out Antonio Pitlua in 2 rounds Pitlua was known for having a rock solid chin, he reportedly hadn't been knocked down in over a decade

Oh and Vincente Mosquera was by far the best fighter who Valero faced not Demarco

[New England]

ummm Valero stopped Demarco. Also WTF makes you think those were his best shots did you not notice the gigantic cut Valero had that was clearly bothering him.

Valero knocked out Antonio Pitlua in 2 rounds Pitlua was known for having a rock solid chin, he reportedly hadn't been knocked down in over a decade

Oh and Vincente Mosquera was by far the best fighter who Valero faced not Demarco

if i remember correctly he never even took him off his feet. i don't want to re-watch each round, but i'm about 97% certain he couldn't even drop him.

the corner had to retire him, i'm certain of that. and it took nine rounds


the point is that valero was ****ing on demarco's face and chest for nine rounds and didn't even break him down until the second half of the fight

i never said they went the distance
i said that he ate valero's best punches for 9 rounds


the best puncher ever at LW lol.


that cut wasn't bleeding into his eye, certainly not to the point where it would effect his ability to dish out his "ATG" power on friggin antonio demarco.


nowhere near ATG power, dude
listen to your support
pitalua?
mosquera?


are you even serious?


ATG punching power?
the best ever at LW? LW is one of the deepest divisions in the history of the sport


valero went less than 20 rounds at the full LW limit.
pitalua was in his late 30's
mosquera fought as low as 120 lbs and made a career at or around FW, and was never a factor above 130.


you're calling that the best ever?


im sorry to belabor the point
but i literally laughed out loud when i heard you believe valero is the ATG power puncher at LW
then puked up a bit of bile into my mouth

[SCtrojansbaby]

if i remember correctly he never even took him off his feet. i don't want to re-watch each round, but i'm about 97% certain he couldn't even drop him.

the corner had to retire him, i'm certain of that. and it took nine rounds


the point is that valero was ****ing on demarco's face and chest for nine rounds and didn't even break him down until the second half of the fight

i never said they went the distance
i said that he ate valero's best punches for 9 rounds


the best puncher ever at LW lol.


that cut wasn't bleeding into his eye, certainly not to the point where it would effect his ability to dish out his "ATG" power on friggin antonio demarco.


nowhere near ATG power, dude
listen to your support
pitalua?
mosquera?


are you even serious?


ATG punching power?
the best ever at LW? LW is one of the deepest divisions in the history of the sport


valero went less than 20 rounds at the full LW limit.
pitalua was in his late 30's
mosquera fought as low as 120 lbs and made a career at or around FW, and was never a factor above 130.


you're calling that the best ever?


im sorry to belabor the point
but i literally laughed out loud when i heard you believe valero is the ATG power puncher at LW
then puked up a bit of bile into my mouth

LOL so stopping a guy in 9 rounds means you can't be all time great puncher?

LOL that feather fisted bum George Foreman went 10 rounds with Levi Forte

How about that turd with pillows on his hand Thomas Hearns I mean he went 10 rounds with Mike Colbert.

[Steward]

No contest ruling by the board.

Shane for steriods and Pernell for coke.

.... apologies, Poor joke.

But i'd give it to Pernell.

This is however a fight between two of the top ten best lightweights ever and i wouldn't be surprised if it was close, mosley maybe scoring a knockdown with one of those quick rights ala Roger Mayweather managed to if Pernell uncharacteristically got lazy. Jab is obviously crucial in this fight.

[phallus]

mosley wouldn't even hit whitaker once in the entire fight, prime whitaker has the skills to make mosley look like a ******. easy UD win for pernell

[IronDanHamza]

No contest ruling by the board.

Shane for steriods and Pernell for coke.

.... apologies, Poor joke.

But i'd give it to Pernell.

This is however a fight between two of the top ten best lightweights ever and i wouldn't be surprised if it was close, mosley maybe scoring a knockdown with one of those quick rights ala Roger Mayweather managed to if Pernell uncharacteristically got lazy. Jab is obviously crucial in this fight.

Shane Mosley isn't even close to the Top 30 Lightweights ever.

No way on this planet is he anywhere near the Top 10.

[young_robbed]

Pernell wins hands down

[New England]

LOL so stopping a guy in 9 rounds means you can't be all time great puncher?

LOL that feather fisted bum George Foreman went 10 rounds with Levi Forte

How about that turd with pillows on his hand Thomas Hearns I mean he went 10 rounds with Mike Colbert.

if that's all they had going for their historic punching resume's

then yes, they wouldn't be great punchers

if that's all their ledgers contained there would be many men who had done much more in terms of punching at their respective weights who would be considered greater

but then you go through their records
and actually watch them fight
and see that it's not the case




lets switch gears, here
why do you think valero should be so highly regarded in historic terms as a LW puncher?

what has he done?

knocked out urbano antillon in the gym?
beat erik morales up in the gym?
stopped a bunch of guys in round 1?

so did shannon the cannon
and tyrone brunson



what do you base your ranking of valero on, sctrojansbaby?
o where o where did his legendary LW punching reputation come from?
the guy only fought 70 rounds as a pro
and less than 20 were at the full LW limit...

you're calling him the GOAT puncher at LW based on this body of work?

or are you saying:
"the power i saw when valero punched is greater than any LW i've seen with my eyes."

both are bogus assortments in my eyes
absolutely bogus

think about the tenure of the LW division
it;s been around as long as men have been boxing



why are you so unwilling to learn is what i really want to know
you don't listen to anybody but your own wild self
and you're almost always flat out wrong