Its funny I havent played this one out in my head. I'd strangely enough go with Marciano. He could hit a ton and could take a good one too. I think in a 7 or eight round war that Rocky gets Joe out by Ref stoppage but not without visiting a doctor right after. Bloody and hard to watch at times but definitely Marciano in the mid to late rounds.
I see Joe winning this one. His quality of opp is much better, He's stronger and like Rocky but a size larger. Someone said Joe has a better defence tho and I don't buy that. rocky had a good defence and better than joe's.
I still see an early war with rocky being dropped in the first round and giving joe trouble but the fight being stopped after about 8 with rocky's nose hanging off. I don't think he fought anyone as powerful as Frazier. Both great fighters but for me joe has the edge here.
Frazier had a better left hook, tougher skin, and was faster. Marciano had a better right, better stamina, and never lost his power as the fight wore on. Very close, but Ali picked Marciano on this one, and I would too. Frazier was very open for the right, and that was Rocky's bread and butter. Bonavena put Frazier down twice with it in their first first. Both men had good chins with the edge slightly to Marciano. Marciano was a bit of a slow starter, but once he reached round three, look out. Joe was a very fast starter.
Nice post. But I'll counter Bonavena putting Joe down with Archie dropping the Rock. And of the two (Bonavena in his prime vs a very old Moore), I'd bet high that Bonavena whacked harder at that time in their respective careers.
I'll take Frazier by late TKO (Ref or Rocky's cornermen call it off). Frazier would apply more pressure to Marciano then anyone else the Rock ever fought.
That's the key right there. Most everybody that Marciano fought tried to outbox him. And he never faced someone who would apply the kind of heat that Frazier would apply to him.
This one has "slobber-knocker" written all over it. A really great, action packed fight with loads of "bombs away!" punches & probably a pint or so of blood. Maybe a tooth also. But it would have been a real war.
What a classic this would turn out to be. They could split a series evenly, no doubt. Frazier swelled where Marciano cut. Marciano bombed with the right, where Frazier swept with the left. Both started cold, finished hot, & gave everything in-between.
My best guess, & it is indeed no more than that, is that Marciano is a little more likely to floor Frazier than vice-versa, & perhaps a knockdown, whether Frazier is hurt or not, makes the difference on the cards. Something like 7-7-1, but a 10-8 round for Marciano somewhere seals a heart-breaker for Frazier. There would be a mild chance someones' skin doesn't hold up, but I see a distance fight more often than not.
1st post on boxingscene and its on 2 of my fav fighters
i think joe wins a decision because he is the all round better fighter , both will probably hit the canvas but joes's immense workrate sees him through in this one...9-6 in rounds
i dont think marciano ever fought a guy who could fight like frazier
frazier has more power, more speed. Stamina goes to rocky. combinations, rocky I suppose. defense, Frazier.
winner = Frazier.
Frazier has more power? In what universe do you live in?
Marciano would drop Frazier multiple times and take this bout within 3 rounds, max. We need to remember that Frazier's chin looked terrible everytime he encountered a dynamite puncher and Marciano is among the biggest bangers in history.
Frazier has more power? In what universe do you live in?
Marciano would drop Frazier multiple times and take this bout within 3 rounds, max. We need to remember that Frazier's chin looked terrible everytime he encountered a dynamite puncher and Marciano is among the biggest bangers in history.
Well Wlad Ownz, we all know what you REALLY mean is that in your eyes Frazier has the wrong pigmentation to win :jerk0ff9:
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