Tyson's Talents Are Way Overrated

[Verstyle]

its funny how u guys quote skydog since he hasnt posted here since last year.ahaaha

[BmoreBrawler]

You neutralise him in the clinches? You move laterally thus removing the oppurtunity for him to get his feet set? keep him turning? Foreman could punch through defences more sucessfully than Tyson ever did or could. So as soon as Ali get's trapped in a corner its over? ROFL... Ali is a master at neutralizing and minimizing the damage an attack inflicts whilst on the ropes.

Tyson had the SPEED to counter any strategy, and I dont know what Ali would have done after 2-3 body shots from tyson in a corner. Ali's speed and accuracy could have beat tyson in the middle of the ring though.

[Cutthroat]

I think Marciano was overrated too, not because of his race or the color of his skin but because of the level of comp. back in the day. You're talking over 60 years ago, guys are WAY bigger and stronger than they would've been that long ago. And yes, it's more likely that if you lift more you can punch harder. A guy who can only bench 100 won't beat a guy who can bench 300. They didn't have the training techniques we have today, they were sort of "Primitive" compared to what boxers do today. Marciano wouldn't last in his prime against boxers today, his record at best would be with at least 10 lossess. He was good back then, he wouldn't be able to handle the level of comp. today. He wasn't that hard of a puncher, it's just that people had weak chins back then.

[Verstyle]

I think Marciano was overrated too, not because of his race or the color of his skin but because of the level of comp. back in the day. You're talking over 60 years ago, guys are WAY bigger and stronger than they would've been that long ago. And yes, it's more likely that if you lift more you can punch harder. A guy who can only bench 100 won't beat a guy who can bench 300. They didn't have the training techniques we have today, they were sort of "Primitive" compared to what boxers do today. Marciano wouldn't last in his prime against boxers today, his record at best would be with at least 10 lossess. He was good back then, he wouldn't be able to handle the level of comp. today. He wasn't that hard of a puncher, it's just that people had weak chins back then.

u will recieve so much **** for that comment

[Cutthroat]

I know but it's the truth

[Piggu]

I think Marciano was overrated too, not because of his race or the color of his skin but because of the level of comp. back in the day. You're talking over 60 years ago, guys are WAY bigger and stronger than they would've been that long ago. And yes, it's more likely that if you lift more you can punch harder. A guy who can only bench 100 won't beat a guy who can bench 300. They didn't have the training techniques we have today, they were sort of "Primitive" compared to what boxers do today. Marciano wouldn't last in his prime against boxers today, his record at best would be with at least 10 lossess. He was good back then, he wouldn't be able to handle the level of comp. today. He wasn't that hard of a puncher, it's just that people had weak chins back then.

Well if Marciano was around now, wouldn't he also be bigger and stronger?

[Cutthroat]

Well if Marciano was around now, wouldn't he also be bigger and stronger?

I'm talking if like somehow we made a time machine and everything :P. Marciano would definatley be bigger if he had the equipment boxers have these days. I'm comparing Rocky's skills to boxers skills today

[Cutthroat]

It's like this...


Body builders back then:




Body builders today:



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[Abe Attell]

Tyson had the SPEED to counter any strategy, and I dont know what Ali would have done after 2-3 body shots from tyson in a corner. Ali's speed and accuracy could have beat tyson in the middle of the ring though.

I think it was Shavers who mentioned that the one thing he was able to do was hit Ali with the right because Ali tended to drop his hand after he jabbed.

Who knows, both fighters were something in their prime.

[Abe Attell]

I think Marciano was overrated too, not because of his race or the color of his skin but because of the level of comp. back in the day. You're talking over 60 years ago, guys are WAY bigger and stronger than they would've been that long ago. And yes, it's more likely that if you lift more you can punch harder. A guy who can only bench 100 won't beat a guy who can bench 300. They didn't have the training techniques we have today, they were sort of "Primitive" compared to what boxers do today. Marciano wouldn't last in his prime against boxers today, his record at best would be with at least 10 lossess. He was good back then, he wouldn't be able to handle the level of comp. today. He wasn't that hard of a puncher, it's just that people had weak chins back then.

I understand what you are trying to say, but guys back then were strong. Recent Studies have shown that Testosterone levels have dropped in men. Why? If I had to take a guess it is because the "Old timers" were working in the fields, docks, steel-mills, iron masons, etc. Guys were strong even though their physical appearence may not have reflected the same look as the fighters today because of the nutrition, exact weight lifting for increasing size, and "Supplements" (for some)

Take even the "Steroid" users like Arnold Schwarzenegger and Franko Columbu: Arnold was much bigger, but he wasn't stronger than Franko. Your Genes, which can enable you to have higher levels of hormones than the "normal" male, and the muscle fibers you are born with in your body, have a lot to do with how strong you are.