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  • #81
    Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
    I mean Euro-frauds like all those jokes Calslappy was fighting.....funny how Zags waited until Eubank was washed up to fight him :geek9:
    He didn't really have a choice with Eubank...Calzaghe was nobody when Eubank was still considered a top fighter. But in general Calzaghe wasted a whole lot of his career. His resume isn't that bad for a guy with 30 fights, but for 46 when you're rated as high as p4p #3? It's pretty sad.

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    • #82
      After the Michael Watson tragedy Eubank clearly decided that he would no longer press for a KO victory (leading to a succession of mediocre points decisions).

      However, Eubank was NOT "washed up" when he fought Calzaghe. Indeed, I don't think Eubank was ever washed up as his last two fights (immediately after the Calzaghe bout) were up at Cruiserweight where he came within an inch of claiming the WBO belt against the highly respected Carl Thompson (the only man to defeat David Haye).

      In both fights Eubank showed tremendous aggression and heart and watching them again it's clear that he was close to the top of his game (the weight difference was just too much for him).

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Mugwump View Post
        After the Michael Watson tragedy Eubank clearly decided that he would no longer press for a KO victory (leading to a succession of mediocre points decisions).

        However, Eubank was NOT "washed up" when he fought Calzaghe. Indeed, I don't think Eubank was ever washed up as his last two fights (immediately after the Calzaghe bout) were up at Cruiserweight where he came within an inch of claiming the WBO belt against the highly respected Carl Thompson (the only man to defeat David Haye).

        In both fights Eubank showed tremendous aggression and heart and watching them again it's clear that he was close to the top of his game (the weight difference was just too much for him).
        Considering Eubank A) was Past 30, B) Hadn't beaten a name opponent in years, and C) Lost 5 of his last 9 fights (and the 4 he won were against nobodies), I think that qualifies as "washed up".

        Poet

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        • #84
          Originally posted by Mugwump View Post
          After the Michael Watson tragedy Eubank clearly decided that he would no longer press for a KO victory (leading to a succession of mediocre points decisions).

          However, Eubank was NOT "washed up" when he fought Calzaghe. Indeed, I don't think Eubank was ever washed up as his last two fights (immediately after the Calzaghe bout) were up at Cruiserweight where he came within an inch of claiming the WBO belt against the highly respected Carl Thompson (the only man to defeat David Haye).

          In both fights Eubank showed tremendous aggression and heart and watching them again it's clear that he was close to the top of his game (the weight difference was just too much for him).
          Thank you! For years I've been thinking I was alone in believing this, that Eubank was not washed up. After all, he gave Thompson two hard fights after this. He wasn't prime no, but he wasn't washed up either. He wasn't far past prime.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Pastrano View Post
            Thank you! For years I've been thinking I was alone in believing this, that Eubank was not washed up. After all, he gave Thompson two hard fights after this. He wasn't prime no, but he wasn't washed up either. He wasn't far past prime.
            Other than the fact that Carl Thompson was another Euro-fraud with a resume loaded down with other Euro-frauds and a half-dead Eubank SHOULD have given him a hard fight.

            Poet

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            • #86
              according to poet everyone past 30 is "washed up"

              we need to get this troll banned from history section

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Forza View Post
                according to poet everyone past 30 is "washed up"

                we need to get this troll banned from history section
                You forgot the "hadn't beaten a name fighter in years" and "lost 5 of his last 9 fights" part :bringit9:

                It's nutghuggers like you that need to be banished to NSB with the other 'tards.

                Poet

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Forza View Post
                  RJJ and bhop ducked a prime calzaghe. They would NEVER fight him at SMW and waited until he was 36-37 years old to agree to a fight, but on their home turf.

                  RJJ was a bum blaster, the guy fought nobodies and has beens his entire career besides james toney.

                  BHOP is a dirty fighter with like 10 loses, he always cries when he loses and has no power in his punches ( even compared to calzaghe ). His fights put me to sleep.
                  I really hate to bother you with facts, but Hopkins has lost just 5 times in over 22 years. That is pretty damn impressive. One of them was his first fight in 1988, and three of the other losses were very close fights.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Forza View Post
                    according to poet everyone past 30 is "washed up"

                    we need to get this troll banned from history section
                    He's a troll indeed and a pus*y in addition, coz he put me on ignore right away instead of facing me like a man.

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                    • #90
                      Calzaghe would not get out boxed by Pascal and is the far more adaptable of the two.

                      He has much more stamina too which well help him implement whatever strategy he decided to go with.

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