Originally posted by Heckler
"Cut my gloves off. I can't see. We're going home." Cassius Clay yelled - page 194 of Angelo Dundee's 'I Only Talk Winning'.
"Clay didn't want to come out for the round at all. He told me later he was at the door of the Near Room--the place with the trombone-playing alligators and the screaming snakes. He said that his eyes hurt so much from whatever it was in them that he told Dundee to "cut the gloves off"." - page 104 of Plimpton's 'Shadow Box'.
What YOU don't get is that there is in fact very clear "evidence suggesting he was going to quit", including the words of both his cornerman and Ali himself. And both sources I cited up there describe how Dundee basically had to shove Ali back in the ring at the beginning of the fifth round..."I shoved Cassius forward into the ring" (Dundee says after describing a brief argument he had with Ali in the corner) and "Dundee finally got his fighter moving, pushing him toward the center of the ring" (Plimpton).
I didn't come into this discussion stating Ali quit, lacked heart or anything like that...I only came in when you made that "no evidence suggesting" comment.
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