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  • #51
    Corum said 8 OZ gloves mostly for a heavyweight title fight,

    But here they used 6 Oz gloves for the Marciano Moore fight.
    As it turn out, the 6 OZ gloves did not have the **** like Ko for Moore like the Walcott Ko had.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Dempsey1238
      Baer, Sharkey, Schmling, Lewis, Conn, Godoy, and OTHERs were FAR from bums as you called em.

      The gloves had not change much from the 1940's-1970.

      Bill Corum said that heavyweight champion ships mostly use 16 gloves, but the Marciano Moore used 8 OZ for this bout, Corum was thinking it may add power to Marciano's Power, of couse Marciano took 9 rounds to ko Moore in thsos gloves.

      I think the heaver the glove, the more power you have. The Gloves are made to protect the hands, NOT THE OTHER GUY. The gloves today are harder, and cause a bit more damage,.

      Going out and claiming Foreman will killed people with the gloves from the 1940's is over acted.
      all the men you just named there were far inferior to frazier, norton, lyle, ali, etc. they are way smaller, and less less chin.

      the gloves probably doubled in size from '40 to '70. stop lying.

      the heavier the glove, the more padded the punches are. why do you think that they use 16oz. or more size gloves in sparring? they do that to minimize the damage. when jack johnson was champ, they were using like 4oz. gloves and more people were being knocked out than now. foreman would kill people weighing 190 that louis fought and ko'd in the first. number one, foreman's punching power is unmatched. number two, the people were smaller in the 1940s. number three, the gloves were alot smaller. and number four, referees let fights go alot longer in the 40s than in the 70s, if a fighter was hurt.

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      • #53
        Now this would be the greatest fight ever!!
        These 2 probably are the greatest fighters ever. As far who would win i think...both could beat eachother if they fought 3 times. BUT i think Joe Louis was the better fighter only because he had so much power. So i think it would be 2-1 for Louis.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by butterfly1964
          all the men you just named there were far inferior to frazier, norton, lyle, ali, etc. they are way smaller, and less less chin.

          the gloves probably doubled in size from '40 to '70. stop lying.

          the heavier the glove, the more padded the punches are. why do you think that they use 16oz. or more size gloves in sparring? they do that to minimize the damage. when jack johnson was champ, they were using like 4oz. gloves and more people were being knocked out than now. foreman would kill people weighing 190 that louis fought and ko'd in the first. number one, foreman's punching power is unmatched. number two, the people were smaller in the 1940s. number three, the gloves were alot smaller. and number four, referees let fights go alot longer in the 40s than in the 70s, if a fighter was hurt.

          They just impove the padded, so the horse hair wont shift during thowning punchs. Foreman will not killed people useing the gloves from the 1940's. Your acting like Foreman could killed people with his bare fist, if that was so, Than Tyson would have been killing people he hit out side the ring(A fellow boxer, and 2 people that rare ended him)

          Non of thsos guys were killed when Tyson hit them. Out side of being a bigger glove, Not much has change, they just protected the hands better. I sure Patterson, who happen to fight in both the 1950's and up until the early 1970's, would not think there was much a diffent from the gloves.

          Farr and co may not be as good as Boxers than Fraizer or Ali, BUT they were a step a head of the Qurreys, and the Nortons of Ali;s time. They were far from inferior. They would be champions in Ali's era, if Ali, Fraizr of Foreman were not around.
          Last edited by Dempsey1238; 01-14-2006, 11:04 AM.

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          • #55
            2 great fighters, 1 great winner. Ali.

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            • #56
              Ali was a great fighter but Lewis would be my pick for the best, no matter what kind of gloves they wore.

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              • #57
                Louis might have had a chance but he didn't have hand speed…Ali for me.

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                • #58
                  Louis has hand speed. he was one of the fastest heavyweights of all time in regards to hand speed.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Dempsey1238
                    Louis has hand speed. he was one of the fastest heavyweights of all time in regards to hand speed.
                    Maybe in his day, what was years & years ago, Ali would have done a mind worp on his ass as much as i like Louis, but it's true!

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                    • #60
                      Louis had great hand speed! I watched both of those fighters on ESPN over the weekend, Louis never quit coming at you, when he got hit he counterpunched, they just don't give ground in those days, Ali would dance around Louis, but was more aggressive when he was younger, the younger Ali(Clay) would have lost to Louis, the older Ali was smarter in a big fight.(such as Foreman fight),,,,

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