Is Oscar De la Hoya a top 20 ATG WW?

[IronDanHamza]

Just supplying opinion back dude. I like boxing.

That's all good, my friend.

Like I said I have gone over your lists thoroughly and although I disagree with some parts of them I have the utmost respect for them.

As you pointed out no one will ever agree whole heartedly with each others list.

[CarlosG815]

Moochie would have clowned Oscar...if he was on.

Of the two, I would pick Honeyghan to have better odds against DLH. Moochie lacked the handspeed to give a guy like Oscar trouble.

[jrosales13]

Oh I agree, by all means.

I dislike Oscar myself personally. Was never a fan of him.

I personally have him between 15 and 20 but the more I think about it the more I think he could easily be between 20 and 25. But, I would imagine I personally would put him between 15 and 20.

Of course you wasn't. What straight man would be a fan of Oscar?

[IronDanHamza]

Of course you wasn't. What straight man would be a fan of Oscar?

That's actually an excellent point.

All the women in my family love him and all the men in my family hate him.

Besides me who just doesn't like him as opposed to passionate hate

Even my cousins who are young kids and nephews who are under 10 years of age hate the guy but that's mainly because they are force fed that **** from birth.

But yeah lets not get on an "I hate Oscar" tangent which is clearly your intention.

[RubenSonny]

Of course you wasn't. What straight man would be a fan of Oscar?

[GJC]

I have De La Hoya in my top-20 BUT there's a big caveat to that: If a fighter who was great at Welter but who spent most of his career or was at his best in another division, say Middle or Lightweight, then I don't rank them at Welter.....that means Oscar isn't competing for spots against the likes of Whitaker, Duran, Chavez, Langford, ect.

Poet

Sugar Ray Robinson
Henry Armstrong
Kid Gavilan
Sugar Ray Leonard
Jose Napoles
Emile Griffith
Barbados Joe Walcott
Barney Ross
Mickey Walker
Tommy Ryan
Thomas Hearns
Jimmy McLarnin
Jack Britton
Ted (Kid) Lewis
Carmen Basilio
Luis Rodriguez
Wilfred Benitez
Young Corbett III
Felix Trinidad
Don Curry

There's 20 i'd fancy to beat DLH.

Here's a few that if we follow your rules are ineligible but I'd favour:
Langford
Mike Gibbons
Charley Burley
Roberto Duran
Shane Mosley
Pernell Whitaker
Holman Williams

But then if we go with your 8 and bump up then he runs into Prior and McFarland

Deep deep division, really no shame in squeeking into a top 30 in that company. Plus lets be fair he must have more money then all of them put together.
Certainly no way he's making any top 10 at WW

[StarshipTrooper]

Sugar Ray Robinson
Henry Armstrong
Kid Gavilan
Sugar Ray Leonard
Jose Napoles
Emile Griffith
Barbados Joe Walcott
Barney Ross
Mickey Walker
Tommy Ryan
Thomas Hearns
Jimmy McLarnin
Jack Britton
Ted (Kid) Lewis
Carmen Basilio
Luis Rodriguez
Wilfred Benitez
Young Corbett III
Felix Trinidad
Don Curry

There's 20 i'd fancy to beat DLH.

Here's a few that if we follow your rules are ineligible but I'd favour:
Langford
Mike Gibbons
Charley Burley
Roberto Duran
Shane Mosley
Pernell Whitaker
Holman Williams

But then if we go with your 8 and bump up then he runs into Prior and McFarland

Deep deep division, really no shame in squeeking into a top 30 in that company. Plus lets be fair he must have more money then all of them put together.
Certainly no way he's making any top 10 at WW

I'd favor Oscar over Pryor who I think gets grossly overrated by people, mostly over might-have-beens that never where. Trinidad had his chance, got owned, but was given a gift. Off your first list I'd favor Oscar over Curry, Britton, and Rodriguez. Walcott and Young Corbett I just don't know well enough to say one way or the other

Poet

[GJC]

I'd favor Oscar over Pryor who I think gets grossly overrated by people, mostly over might-have-beens that never where. Trinidad had his chance, got owned, but was given a gift. Off your first list I'd favor Oscar over Curry, Britton, and Rodriguez. Walcott and Young Corbett I just don't know well enough to say one way or the other

Poet

I agree that Pryor gets overated but he has chances. Trinidad got the benefit of the doubt for sure but Walcott proved you don't win a mans title on your bike. Curry gets underrated a lot until the weight got him he was some fighter. If Kid Lewis beat DLH you gotta fancy Britton too they were like Abbott and Costello. If Rodriguez is competitive against Griffith he's probably going to have too much for DLH imo.

[Scott9945]

I agree that Pryor gets overated but he has chances. Trinidad got the benefit of the doubt for sure but Walcott proved you don't win a mans title on your bike. Curry gets underrated a lot until the weight got him he was some fighter. If Kid Lewis beat DLH you gotta fancy Britton too they were like Abbott and Costello. If Rodriguez is competitive against Griffith he's probably going to have too much for DLH imo.

Curry was an excellent welterweight champion for about four years. I'd pick him in his prime to beat DLH. But no doubt that Oscar had the better boxing career. Curry was just never the same after the shocking loss to Honeyghan.

[Turok2]

i can't believe he was nominated for a grammy lol