Is Oscar De la Hoya a top 20 ATG WW?

[jrosales13]

The first Shane fight was, duh.

But, Oscar didn't deserve the nod. He lost that fight clearly. It was close but clear. You can't even argue for a draw.

[Pastrano]

But, Oscar didn't deserve the nod. He lost that fight clearly. It was close but clear. You can't even argue for a draw.

What nod, you mean SD? No, that fight was very very close, no doubt. I guess Shane did win, but not more than by a point.

[jrosales13]

What nod, you mean SD? No, that fight was very very close, no doubt. I guess Shane did win, but not more than by a point.

That's as close as you can get it. It's by a point. Because, Shane was the clear winner. You can't even justify a draw. If that fight had of been declared a draw it would have been a robbery. Because, there was one true clear winner in that fight. Close but clear.

[joseph5620]

That's as close as you can get it. It's by a point. Because, Shane was the clear winner. You can't even justify a draw. If that fight had of been declared a draw it would have been a robbery. Because, there was one true clear winner in that fight. Close but clear.

If there was any doubt in that fight Mosley completely dominated Delahoya in the 12th. And prior to that round, Mosley wwas winning the fight. Anybody who claims "it could have been a draw" or "one point" is just reaching with the usual agenda.

[IronDanHamza]

What nod, you mean SD? No, that fight was very very close, no doubt. I guess Shane did win, but not more than by a point.

Come on, the first fight wasn't that close, at all ,really. Close-ish is how I would describe it, but Shane was clearly and rightfully the winner.

However, the second fight, I felt Oscar did enough to win. But since that was at 154 it doesn't mean anything in this conversation.

[RubenSonny]

What nod, you mean SD? No, that fight was very very close, no doubt. I guess Shane did win, but not more than by a point.

Sanchez-Cowdell was an SD............

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[CarlosG815]

@ you trying to salvage some credibility. The thing is there wasn't certainty, I'm not mad at anyone with him in the top 20, I just said I wouldn't do it myself. In an attempt to expose me, you asked for a list because I had made a claim on Oscars ranking, and I thought okay and provided a list, you criticized my list without any decent argument. I dug up a quote of your making a claim on Oscars ranking and you failed to provide a list and justify your ranking.

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Salvage credibility to who? You? I have forgotten more about this sport and fighters in the last 6 months than you have ever known. What you have done is just pilfered 20 welter's from other lists and plugged them into a list, and I am quite certain that you could NOT give justification for each fighter being on that list and why they're in the position in which you have placed them, and why another fighter is not in that spot. You do not know anything of the fighters that you've listed, and I would venture to say that if there weren't pre-existing lists available online, you would have no idea where to even start. Please don't kid yourself and say that you could, because you will only look more foolish.

I do not make lists, but to me, DLH would be top 10 because I think he was amazing and when I watch him fight, I can't pick many fighters over him - he was a great and one of the last of the throwback fighters, as there aren't many guys like him today who are willing to fight anyone and put up a hell of a fight, and he's always been a class act out of the ring and even in defeat.

And Duran is better than DLH at welter? Well I believe Oscar would no mas his ass back to Panama, as he was clearly the far better fighter at the higher weights.