Greb biography

[$Bullsfam$]

Do you need footage of someone to know how great they are?

Do you not consider Ray Robinson as the greatest WW of all time? Or atleast one of them?

When you read about people you can evaluate their greatness, No?

Especially in boxing considering resumes can be compared.

When looking at Langford or Greb's resume it is abundantly clear they are amongst the greatest fighters of all time.

Yeah no doubt. I'm not ignorant. I want to learn more about the sport. I've download over a hundred of old great's fights. I'm still young to the sport and still learning. I'm not gonna be ignorant and say they weren't great fighters. But without seeing the fights I just don't really think anybody could rank them #1 or #2 easily. Rankings have always been just opinions anyways, peoples differ. I'm just saying thats how I feel.

If Michael Jordan didn't have no footage. I'd have him up there with the all time greats thanks to resume but couldn't tell you he's the greatest basketball player to ever live. But seeing what he did out there on the court, that just seals the deal.

[$Bullsfam$]

It's based on records, achievements, skills, and first hand accounts of their fights. Otherwise you have to completely dismiss what they did if you need video as evidence.

Thats all subjective though. Thats just me though. You know how Harold Letterman and Lampley say the craziest things during fights. I like making my own opinion. There definitely great fighters. I just honestly could never rank them #1.

[Barn]

There isn't any.

There is Langford footage.

[Barn]

Yeah no doubt. I'm not ignorant. I want to learn more about the sport. I've download over a hundred of old great's fights. I'm still young to the sport and still learning. I'm not gonna be ignorant and say they weren't great fighters. But without seeing the fights I just don't really think anybody could rank them #1 or #2 easily. Rankings have always been just opinions anyways, peoples differ. I'm just saying thats how I feel.

If Michael Jordan didn't have no footage. I'd have him up there with the all time greats thanks to resume but couldn't tell you he's the greatest basketball player to ever live. But seeing what he did out there on the court, that just seals the deal.

There is footage of Greb people beat though such as Tunney, Waler, Lourghan etc, all with very different styles yet amazing ability.

To beat all these different styles and 18HOF Greb must have been some fighter.

[IronDanHamza]

Yeah no doubt. I'm not ignorant. I want to learn more about the sport. I've download over a hundred of old great's fights. I'm still young to the sport and still learning. I'm not gonna be ignorant and say they weren't great fighters. But without seeing the fights I just don't really think anybody could rank them #1 or #2 easily. Rankings have always been just opinions anyways, peoples differ. I'm just saying thats how I feel.

If Michael Jordan didn't have no footage. I'd have him up there with the all time greats thanks to resume but couldn't tell you he's the greatest basketball player to ever live. But seeing what he did out there on the court, that just seals the deal.

Not that I kow a single thing about Basketball. But if Michael Jordan is the best Basketball player of all time, do you need footage to know that? I don't think you do. His record allows you to identify he is one of the greatest of all time. Just like Greb and Langfords do.

You said you felt Robinson is the greatest of all time, right? But we only have footage of him past his prime. So how do you know he's the greatest? Using the logic you presented, of course.

For me, Robinson is the greatest of all time due to his resume and what he achieved. Does tape help? Absolutely. But do I need it? No.

I would still rank Robinson #1 with or without tape. I don't see why you need tape to identify someone's greatness.

[IronDanHamza]

There is Langford footage.

Very little, though.

[IronDanHamza]

There is footage of Greb people beat though such as Tunney, Waler, Lourghan etc, all with very different styles yet amazing ability.

To beat all these different styles and 18HOF Greb must have been some fighter.

Precisely.

Good post.

[$Bullsfam$]

There is footage of Greb people beat though such as Tunney, Waler, Lourghan etc, all with very different styles yet amazing ability.

To beat all these different styles and 18HOF Greb must have been some fighter.

and thats exactly why I would never EVER try and put together a greatest of all time list haha. The ***** gets too complicated because their are SOOOOOOOOO many factors.

If you read ringside accounts you gotta make sure it's not guys like CBS's Gus Johnson who calls Pink Mohawk guy KOing Kimbo Slice one of the greatest upsets in sports history haha.

Books can pretty much convince you to believe anything sometimes. Boxing math doesn't work. John Ruiz > Holyfield > Tyson > Holmes > Ali hahahaha

Thats gets kinda ridiculous. Maybe when I'm bored one day and feel like going crazy haha

[$Bullsfam$]

Not that I kow a single thing about Basketball. But if Michael Jordan is the best Basketball player of all time, do you need footage to know that? I don't think you do. His record allows you to identify he is one of the greatest of all time. Just like Greb and Langfords do.

You said you felt Robinson is the greatest of all time, right? But we only have footage of him past his prime. So how do you know he's the greatest? Using the logic you presented, of course.

For me, Robinson is the greatest of all time due to his resume and what he achieved. Does tape help? Absolutely. But do I need it? No.

I would still rank Robinson #1 with or without tape. I don't see why you need tape to identify someone's greatness.

I got every fight ***** has over there at the sweet boxing site of him. The man was beautiful to watch. Vs Randy Turpin 2? OH MY GAWD. He went from slackin' in the 1st fight, put his gameface on in the 2nd fight and GOD DAMN! He trashed him! Beautiful KO.

Out of all the people I've heard mentioned as one of the greatest of all time that I've seen, he's by far been the most impressive. Thats just my opinion though.

It just goes to show how good he was that even past his prime he gave the best young prime fighters after him the fight of their lives haha

[Barn]

A past prime Langford fighting a (potentially) Top 30 ATG heavyweight.


Langord at 166 vs Lang at 203. Aged 28.