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Vitali Klitschko vs. Rocky Marciano
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You mean those dudes that quit on their stools because they fell behind on the cards, artificially inflating Vitili's KO%? You mean THOSE dudes? :dunno9:Originally posted by jimmy1569 View PostAsk every one of his knockout victims if they take homage to that assinine comment of yours.
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I agree that Vitali doesn't have the greatest resume. However, he proved he was - at the very least - a credible contender for the #1 position at HW in that torrid battle with Lewis.Originally posted by The_Demon View PostPeople also need too take into consideration just how weak Vitalis resume is,its almost a moot point but he really hasnt beaten anybody too get excited about,which is part of the reason he has such a high KO ratio and often looks good in winning,the two guys of note on his record are Byrd and Lewis,funny that dont you think
I don't subscribe to the opinion that Vitali was robbed of the result. There's a mountain of guff that's been written in defence of VK by an army of Knuthuggers. None of it counters the two key points: 1. The bout was stopped by a fully qualified physician whose professional opinion weighs more than a boatload of excuses. 2. The art of boxing is hitting whilst not getting hit. Vitali's attacking strategy worked superbly and he whipped Lewis in the opening rounds. Even when Lennox started throwing returns Vitali kept up the pressure. However, his defence was not up to the job. He allowed himself to be caught too often (by a fighter whose punches were known to cause cuts) and his face paid the price. It's simply ludicrous to claim you've been robbed when your face looks like a ragged slab of meat.
With this in mind there is indeed reason to question Vitali's validity as a truly outstanding HW. However, I'm sure that if he fought as he did against Lewis (with a few adjustments to his guard) there isn't a HW in history who wouldn't find him troublesome - or more.
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So the people of this forum are just as ****** as ********boxing when it comes to sucking off Marciano? Marciano = average cruiserweight in todays boxing. Vitali = overrated heavyweight but he is still a heavyweight.
Vitali by 1st round murder.
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Originally posted by SeattleSeahawks View PostSo the people of this forum are just as ****** as ********boxing when it comes to sucking off Marciano? Marciano = average cruiserweight in todays boxing. Vitali = overrated heavyweight but he is still a heavyweight.
Vitali by 1st round murder.
Cruiserweight maybe. Average? Don't think so. I also don't think VK is going to find it as easy as you think to hit Marciano. Not if he stands tall and tries to keep his chin up and away from any punches.
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Frazier had better head movement skill and everything else. Could he avoid Foreman's punches? Nope and I am not saying Vitali is Foreman but Marciano was hit by Moore until Moore gased out. Yep a washed up Archie Moore knockd him down.
Marciano's whole career is based on fighting mob controlled fighters and past their prime fighters.
As I said Marciano is one of the most overrated boxers ever and Vitali smashes him.
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I'm not saying that Marciano would beat Foreman or VK. It's a bad match-up for him (except if goes into rounds 10-11-12-13-14-15). If it goes into the latter rounds ... anything goes. I think that Marciano was so overrated by nut huggers that now people think he was a bum. The man was gifted. He started boxing in his 20s while in the Army. He was short, with short arms and he didn't just beat bums or washed-up fighters.Originally posted by SeattleSeahawks View PostFrazier had better head movement skill and everything else. Could he avoid Foreman's punches? Nope and I am not saying Vitali is Foreman but Marciano was hit by Moore until Moore gased out. Yep a washed up Archie Moore knockd him down.
Marciano's whole career is based on fighting mob controlled fighters and past their prime fighters.
As I said Marciano is one of the most overrated boxers ever and Vitali smashes him.
Jersey Joe Walcott was the Bernard Hopkins of his day. He didn't think he could possibly lose to Marciano. Ezzard Charles was like 32-33 when he fought Marciano. He was past-prime but they were good wins for Marciano nonetheless.
Was Marciano vastly overrated by many of his fans? Yeah, of course. But we shouldn't go too far the other way. If you think Dempsey, Frazier or Tyson would have sparked VK and WK then Marciano would have given them trouble too.
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