Greater Fighter, Holyfield or Foreman?

[Perfect Plex]

I find this a difficult one. Who do you think should be ranked higher on a ATG list.

[Wild Blue Yonda]

We talking achievements, or head-to-head.

Head-to-head, it's more like hand-to-head, as a young Foreman hands Holyfield his melon. Would be a savage death for Holyfield.

Looking at their careers, well, it's harder. Holyfield has his Cruiserweight glory, as well as a long & storied HW career with some real highs. Foreman's story through two careers probably deserves the nod, though.

[Perfect Plex]

We talking achievements, or head-to-head.

Head-to-head, it's more like hand-to-head, as a young Foreman hands Holyfield his melon. Would be a savage death for Holyfield.

Looking at their careers, well, it's harder. Holyfield has his Cruiserweight glory, as well as a long & storied HW career with some real highs. Foreman's story through two careers probably deserves the nod, though.

Nah nothing to do with Head to Head. Just achievements!

[Wild Blue Yonda]

I still have to give it to Foreman, but Holyfield deserves his regard.

[Steak]

pound for pound, Holyfield is greater.
at Heavyweight, Foreman is greater.

[IronDanHamza]

I definitely rank Foreman higher at HW.

I probably rank him higher of all time aswell.

[Pastrano]

Holyfield is just a better fighter overall, he's complete. Foreman could punch and brawl well, but he had no defense and his boxing skills were minimal. Later on he became a bit better at boxing, but he could never be as good as Holy.

[Toney616]

I find this a difficult one. Who do you think should be ranked higher on a ATG list.

In terms of achievements I would have to go with Holyfield
Holyfield:
Rid**** Bowe(prime)
Mike Tyson(past prime)
Mike Tyson(past prime)
Ray Mercer ??
George Foreman(past prime)
Dwight Muhammad Qawi(past Prime)
Foerman:
Michael Moorer
Joe Frazier (past prime)
Joe Frazier (very past prime)
Ron Lyle ???
Ken Norton{prime}

[Toney616]

Holyfield is just a better fighter overall, he's complete. Foreman could punch and brawl well, but he had no defense and his boxing skills were minimal. Later on he became a bit better at boxing, but he could never be as good as Holy.

Holyfield was clearly the better boxer, I wouldn't say he was complete though, he was very easy to hit

[IronDanHamza]

In terms of achievements I would have to go with Holyfield
Holyfield:
Rid**** Bowe(prime)
Mike Tyson(past prime)
Mike Tyson(past prime)
Ray Mercer ??
George Foreman(past prime)
Dwight Muhammad Qawi(past Prime)
Foerman:
Michael Moorer
Joe Frazier (past prime)
Joe Frazier (very past prime)
Ron Lyle ???
Ken Norton{prime}

You don't credit Foreman's win over Chuvalo as a good win?

Consdering Joe Fraizer was the undefeated Lineal Champion when George Foreman beat him and the in the fashion he did was remarkable. Same goes for the fashion he beat Ken Norton.

In the space of 6 years George Foreman stopped Fraizer x2, Norton, Chuvalo and Lyle in 5 rounds or less.

THEN, 17 years later beating a title holder in Moorer to become the oldest HW world champion ever.

I can't see how Holyfield has better accomplismnets than that personally.