Does a no-contest count as a title defense?

[Clegg]

What Im saying is Ruiz was thoroughly out boxed and beaten in that fight, Had Toney not tested positive the discussion would be moot. I just can't see a way to validate a successful defense in Ruiz's favor when he was clearly beaten, albeit by cheating. A no contest is the best decision, in my opinion, in this scenario.

I personally think it should be a DQ win for Ruiz.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yes. I've only seen one instance of BoxRec not treating a no contest as a title defense. At the same time, if a draw is a title defense, I don't really see anything wrong with a no contest being a title defense too. As long as there is an opening bell.

Not seeing the comparison. In a draw the fighter has to go the distance and make the fight close. In a NC, the champ could lose each and every round leading up to a partial fight (that he would've lost and perhaps didn't even throw a punch to end the fight.) I don't know, seems like you'd have to evaluate the NCs individually. The Hopkins fight, you could argue he did everything right, was winning the fight, and wasn't at fault for what happened. But others, I'm not so sure about.

[Scott9945]

A no contest shouldn't count as a title defense. But on the other hand, if you get paid and leave the ring with the title, it is successful on some levels.

[TBear]

Thats the way i see it aswell,although its open too interpretation i suppose

agreed. Often you might hear something like, "he is 10-0 with 1 NC in title bouts".
I personally do well others might not. Either way I would not count it a "successful" title defence.

[The_Demon]

agreed. Often you might hear something like, "he is 10-0 with 1 NC in title bouts".
I personally do well others might not. Either way I would not count it a "successful" title defence.

neither would i,but like jim jeffries said a few posts back you have too look at individual examples,which can make it hard for anything too be set in stone

[Sweet Jesus]

I personally think it should be a DQ win for Ruiz.

good post.

[Sweet Jesus]

Tim Bradley's first defense of the WBO JWW title vs. Nate Campbell. Originally ruled WTKO3, later changed to NC3. Do you count that as a title defense?

[JAB5239]

I personally think it should be a DQ win for Ruiz.

I disagree. Once the bell ending the fights sounds a fighter should not be able to be disqualified. A no contest is the only thing left that makes sense in my opinion.

[Sweet Jesus]

I disagree. Once the bell ending the fights sounds a fighter should not be able to be disqualified. A no contest is the only thing left that makes sense in my opinion.

I disagree. Guys like Resto, Toney, all of the cheats should be given DQ retroactively. They cheated. Why reward them with a NC? Because they got away with it during the fight?

[Steak]

Itll certainly be counted as a title defense if youre promoting the fighter.

but I dont think its legitimate in any way.
but, title defenses dont really mean much anyway, more about who you beat.