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  • #71
    Originally posted by Mike Tyson Jr.
    buster got a long count

    and he loss to williams cause the knee and lewis cause off his back and mcbride cause off his ingrod toenail and to hloyfield caus he was sick

    dont you see tyson never lost a fight,tyson is unbeatable and is the greates ever he would kill ali,fore,frazier,holmes,marciaon and louis at the same time.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by leff
      and he loss to williams cause the knee and lewis cause off his back and mcbride cause off his ingrod toenail and to hloyfield caus he was sick

      dont you see tyson never lost a fight,tyson is unbeatable and is the greates ever he would kill ali,fore,frazier,holmes,marciaon and louis at the same time.


      in his prime no one can beat him
      his prime ended when kevin rooney
      left his camp.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Mike Tyson Jr.
        in his prime no one can beat him
        his prime ended when kevin rooney
        left his camp.
        Which is why he's a piece of **** "champion". When your prime is a virtually nonexistant time frame; that means you're ****ty. If all you can do is make excuses the moment you start looking worse; you're a piece of ****. It's nobody's fault but his own that he went downhill. Had he stayed focus and wanting to win, and surrounded himself with the right type of people, maybe he would've been a top 10 of all time. But now all we are left with is what ifs and a shell of his former self.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Mike Tyson Jr.
          in his prime no one can beat him
          his prime ended when kevin rooney
          left his camp.
          now cause we al now tyson prime was over wednesday before the douglas fight and and tyson wasnt half the fighter he was a month before

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          • #75
            Tyson was not out of his prime when he fought douglas he jus did not use any combinations ar any head movement he was hoping for one big power shot which would knock douglas out it is the same in the fight with frank bruno tyson did nothing excep throw bower shots which hit bruno and knocked him out. all that talk of out of his prime is bull****. it is tyson's fault he did not train properly and abbandoned his peak a boo style.

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            • #76
              tyson was in his prime but he did no training at all unless you call being beaten on by your sparring partners training . Washed up fighters such as berbick and page were beating mikes ass in the gym,mike didnt think that douglas would try and fight him he knew of douglas history of folding in fights and lack of commitment to boxing and thats why he took the fight , mike thought douglas would lay down at the sight of him but that wasent the case and the rest is history .

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              • #77
                Originally posted by catskills23
                tyson was in his prime but he did no training at all unless you call being beaten on by your sparring partners training . Washed up fighters such as berbick and page were beating mikes ass in the gym,mike didnt think that douglas would try and fight him he knew of douglas history of folding in fights and lack of commitment to boxing and thats why he took the fight , mike thought douglas would lay down at the sight of him but that wasent the case and the rest is history .
                still mikes fault that he didnt train, he wasnt out off his prime he was just pure lazy

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                • #78
                  Let's end this, okay?

                  First of all, I will clear this out of the water right now: I am a firm believer that, despite the way Tyson's career fell apart, he should still be considered for most top ten lists. However, my statements here will concur with the obvious.

                  Mike Tyson's marriage was spiraling out of control, he left Rooney and joined Don King, and he put on 5 pounds before the Douglas fight. This is Mike Tyson's fault! James 'Buster' Douglas was also in the best shape of his life. He knew he was going to be on international television, in front of millions of viewers, tackling a wrecking machine of a man, in more-or-less a primer for the fight between Holyfield and Tyson. He wasn't going to look like a chump out there. Buster Douglas used all of this to his advantage and out-boxed the champ. Plain and simple.

                  Mike Tyson was not out of his prime, he was just out of shape mentally and physically. It's possible for a guy in his prime to not prepare like he's in his prime. It's these kinds of things that Tyson employed for the remainder of his career. Yes, he should have beaten Douglas; yes he would have clobbered Holyfield in the late 80's early 90's; yes, if he would have been able to stay with Rooney, Tyson would have had the best shot at going 50-0. The fact of the matter is, he blew it all.

                  On a side note, while Douglas was beating Tyson up all night long, Douglas was down for longer than a 10-count. In fact, the ref immediately stopped the count the moment Douglas motioned to get up. Usually, they continue the count until a fighter brings his gloves together and is standing upright. EVEN SO, Tyson still had an opportunity in the next rounds to finish off a guy that he had knocked down, but he didn't. Mike was notorious for finishing a fighter off, but again, he blew it.

                  In conclusion, I loved watching Mike Tyson, and I'd place him near the top of the list of all-time heavyweights. But on that night, and for the remainder of his career, I'll say it again....he blew it.
                  Last edited by Brassangel; 12-15-2005, 11:26 PM.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by leff
                    still mikes fault that he didnt train, he wasnt out off his prime he was just pure lazy


                    nope he lost his trainer that means
                    he lost his prime

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Mike Tyson Jr.
                      nope he lost his trainer that means
                      he lost his prime

                      ummm not the same thing.


                      your just looking for excuses, hey you got one from all off his losses

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