Which boxers have the best combination of punching power and punch resistance?

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  • RubenSonny
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    #21
    Originally posted by mickey malone
    Marciano, Hagler, Dempsey..

    Honourable mentions to Tua, Vitaly, Duran and Ray Mercer in his prime..
    I always thought the power of these two is overrated, Mercer KO'ed Morrison in a fight he was losing which is probably the reason why but Morrison did have an appalling chin, other than that he didn't really KO anyone but he did have an excellent chin. Vitalis never KO'ed anyone particularly tough or good, he has a very high KO ratio over poor opposition and he also failed to stop a shot pretender in Briggs.

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    • Miburo
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      #22
      Foreman is the most brutal combination of the two to ever come together. So much so that unlike fighters such as Tyson, they carried him to Olympic gold with virtually no experience and rudimentary skills. How many pure punchers can say that?

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        #23
        Originally posted by The_Demon
        The guys you mentioned were fighters who used a lot of movement rather than being 'traders'.Gamboa has already shown a shaky chin against average opposition,that pick confuses me
        Gamboa has shown that he's vulnerable to the knockdown. As was Ray Robinson. I've yet to see him hurt.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Tengoshi
          Gamboa has shown that he's vulnerable to the knockdown. As was Ray Robinson. I've yet to see him hurt.
          Which boxers have the best combination of punching power and punch resistance? I simply dont think Gamboa fits into that category,although its too early in his career too judge the guy right now

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          • Holtol
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            #25
            Originally posted by Tengoshi
            Foreman is the most brutal combination of the two to ever come together. So much so that unlike fighters such as Tyson, they carried him to Olympic gold with virtually no experience and rudimentary skills. How many pure punchers can say that?
            Yeah I don't see anyone hanging in with Forman when it comes to purely trading power shots. It's not like endurance would be much of a factor in that sort of contest. I don't see any heavyweight taking 50 bombs from Forman in bettween their own bombs.

            Maybe Marciano would hang in the best with him, he may be the second best take a punch give a punch combination. If he could make it past the early onslaught of Forman's he would have a chance because of his better endurance. If he made it into the second round I think Marciano's punches would carry more power. And Formans punches may start to have less effect on Marciano.

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              #26
              Ricardo Mayorga. His fight with Trinidad...my God he had a chin.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Holtol
                Yeah I don't see anyone hanging in with Forman when it comes to purely trading power shots. It's not like endurance would be much of a factor in that sort of contest. I don't see any heavyweight taking 50 bombs from Forman in bettween their own bombs.

                Maybe Marciano would hang in the best with him, he may be the second best take a punch give a punch combination. If he could make it past the early onslaught of Forman's he would have a chance because of his better endurance. If he made it into the second round I think Marciano's punches would carry more power. And Formans punches may start to have less effect on Marciano.
                When it comes to trading head-on with Foreman punch-for-punch, I would go with Jeffries (very under-rated, & in some ways, a bigger, stronger version of Marciano) & Liston before I would Marciano. I would probably take Dempsey ahead of Marciano for this contest, too.

                Still, it is not easy to imagine anyone truly going shot-for-shot, at point-blank range, & surviving. Foreman had a battle-tested jaw & absolutely ungodly power in both his left & his right hand.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Wild Blue Yonda
                  When it comes to trading head-on with Foreman punch-for-punch, I would go with Jeffries (very under-rated, & in some ways, a bigger, stronger version of Marciano) & Liston before I would Marciano. I would probably take Dempsey ahead of Marciano for this contest, too.

                  Still, it is not easy to imagine anyone truly going shot-for-shot, at point-blank range, & surviving. Foreman had a battle-tested jaw & absolutely ungodly power in both his left & his right hand.
                  Since Marciano was never stopped we don't know exsactly how good a punch he could take. Maybe he could take more of Forman's best shots then Forman could take of his. When Marciano put all of his force into a shot I don't know how many Forman could take, maybe not even two maybe not even one. I Favor Forman, but not rolling with the punches just taking them flush on the jaw is a totally diffrent game.

                  Liston, Dempsey, Jeffries are all good picks, I think.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Holtol
                    Since Marciano was never stopped we don't know exsactly how good a punch he could take. Maybe he could take more of Forman's best shots then Forman could take of his. When Marciano put all of his force into a shot I don't know how many Forman could take, maybe not even two maybe not even one. I Favor Forman, but not rolling with the punches just taking them flush on the jaw is a totally diffrent game.

                    Liston, Dempsey, Jeffries are all good picks, I think.
                    Really? Watch him fight Ezzard Charles or Archie Moore. There's no doubt those guys hurt Rocco. As far as "taking them flush on the jaw" only if you think he won't break your skull. A real threat when dealing with Rocky. I think Rocky went to this type of war more than anyone else. Most of his filmed fight he's in a KO or lose situation. The thing is Rocky never stopped. Archie stopped 131 others' but not Rocco.

                    Also I feel Langford should be mentioned. He probably couldn't take what he was dishing, but still given his size you'd be hard pressed to find today a 155er who could stop Sam.
                    Last edited by Marchegiano; 02-22-2011, 06:40 AM. Reason: Langford

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                    • Holtol
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Marchegiano
                      Really? Watch him fight Ezzard Charles or Archie Moore. There's no doubt those guys hurt Rocco. As far as "taking them flush on the jaw" only if you think he won't break your skull. A real threat when dealing with Rocky. I think Rocky went to this type of war more than anyone else. Most of his filmed fight he's in a KO or lose situation. The thing is Rocky never stopped. Archie stopped 131 others' but not Rocco.

                      Also I feel Langford should be mentioned. He probably couldn't take what he was dishing, but still given his size you'd be hard pressed to find today a 155er who could stop Sam.
                      Seen his fights quite a few times, I just ment I don't know how much it would take to stop Marciano because he has not been stopped. I know more about how much it would take to stop Forman cause I have seen it happen. I don't know if Marciano could take more or less punishment then Forman. So when it comes to trading shots I can't say "Forman would knock out Marciano" because there is no evidance of Marciano being knocked out.

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