Bob Foster vs Dwight Qawi

[sonnyboyx2]

That's exactly what I'm claiming. Margarito never said that. When did he say that and where? Lewis would not have been stripped if he did not replace Kirk Johnson with Vitali Klitschko. That's a lie. Post it and prove it. You did use 6-5 230 as an example for Henry Cooper vs David Haye for your agenda. It was a lie. You claimed Harry Wills was not qualified for a title shot against Jack Dempsey. Another lie. You also claimed that referees never tell fighters to walk towards them after knockdowns. I have a long list of your lies. Keep talking and I will continue to list them. I will ask you again...find anything that supports or backs those statements up. Until then you are a liar.

I can't respect that as a poster. You can question my "boxing knowledge" as much as you want. But you will never find any post where I lied or revised boxing history which seems to be your agenda.

Your a joker who Trolls this site looking to try to trip-up members and draw them into a flame-war with you because you are jealous of anyone who likes the sport of boxing as you hate the sport and are envious of all who enjoy it and have knowledge of it because your knowledge is zero.... i laughed out loud at your accusations you have listed above as they are proof that your knowledge is zero, here is a link to prove Lewis was to be stripped of the WBC title if he never faced Vitali once Kirk Johnson had pulled out of their IBO Title fight.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxin...-johnson_x.htm

The internet is full of articles to back up everything which i said which you claim to be lies and the reason you claim them to be lies is because i am educating you on things about this sport that you never knew before, so just keep reading all my excellent posts as one day you maybe able to compete with guys on this forum who can talk boxing but as of yet your years off being able to do so.

[joseph5620]

Your a joker who Trolls this site looking to try to trip-up members and draw them into a flame-war with you because you are jealous of anyone who likes the sport of boxing as you hate the sport and are envious of all who enjoy it and have knowledge of it because your knowledge is zero.... i laughed out loud at your accusations you have listed above as they are proof that your knowledge is zero, here is a link to prove Lewis was to be stripped of the WBC title if he never faced Vitali once Kirk Johnson had pulled out of their IBO Title fight.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxin...-johnson_x.htm

The internet is full of articles to back up everything which i said which you claim to be lies and the reason you claim them to be lies is because i am educating you on things about this sport that you never knew before, so just keep reading all my excellent posts as one day you maybe able to compete with guys on this forum who can talk boxing but as of yet your years off being able to do so.

LOL That's what I thought. That article says nothing about Lewis being stripped if he didn't replace Johnson with Klitschko. Lewis was already scheduled to fight Klitschko in December when Johnson pulled out. Thanks for proving my point by not only dodging my questions, but also posting something that has nothing to do with Lewis replacing Johnson with Vitali K. You lied**as you often do) and for your sake you should leave it at that. It's funny that you claim the internet is "full of articles to back you up" yet you can't even find one.

[sonnyboyx2]

LOL That's what I thought. That article says nothing about Lewis being stripped if he didn't replace Johnson with Klitschko. Lewis was already scheduled to fight Klitschko in December when Johnson pulled out. Thanks for proving my point by not only dodging my questions, but also posting something that has nothing to do with Lewis replacing Johnson with Vitali K. You lied**as you often do) and for your sake you should leave it at that. It's funny that you claim the internet is "full of articles to back you up" yet you can't even find one.

Yeah the internet is full of articles which say exactly what i said in that Lewis would be stripped.. with you being a massive Lewis fan i thought i would choose this article from the millions on the web because it is rather funny and shows just what "DOUBLE STANDARDS" Lewis has in that he boasts about how he is the linear champion "The man who beat the man" and how he has no interest in fighting IBF No1 contender Chris Byrd.. Yet Rid**** Bowe was the linear champion "The man who beat the man" in 1993 and he avoided Lewis and is reviled for his actions yet Lewis fans expect everyone to "forget it and never mention it" when Lewis does exactly the same on 3 occasions...

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_ho.../21183270.html

[joseph5620]

Yeah the internet is full of articles which say exactly what i said in that Lewis would be stripped.. with you being a massive Lewis fan i thought i would choose this article from the millions on the web because it is rather funny and shows just what "DOUBLE STANDARDS" Lewis has in that he boasts about how he is the linear champion "The man who beat the man" and how he has no interest in fighting IBF No1 contender Chris Byrd.. Yet Rid**** Bowe was the linear champion "The man who beat the man" in 1993 and he avoided Lewis and is reviled for his actions yet Lewis fans expect everyone to "forget it and never mention it" when Lewis does exactly the same on 3 occasions...

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_ho.../21183270.html

You said Lewis would have been stripped if he did not replace Johnson with Klitschko in August. That isn't true and you haven't posted one thing that says otherwise. Bowe, linear titles, and Chris Byrd have nothing to do with that situation. At least try to say on topic.

[sonnyboyx2]

You said Lewis would have been stripped if he did not replace Johnson with Klitschko in August. That isn't true and you haven't posted one thing that says otherwise. Bowe, linear titles, and Chris Byrd have nothing to do with that situation. At least try to say on topic.

Lewis vs Johnson was for the famous IBO title as the WBC would not sanction any fight other than Lewis vs Vitali which had a December deadline and Lewis was to be stripped if he did not meet that deadline... How many fights do you feel Lewis could have squeezed into 6 months... you would not know because you know very little about this sport so i will tell you... none as Lewis never fought twice in 6 months while champion... i enjoy mentioning Bowe was linear champ, Byrd & Ruiz..

[joseph5620]

Lewis vs Johnson was for the famous IBO title as the WBC would not sanction any fight other than Lewis vs Vitali which had a December deadline and Lewis was to be stripped if he did not meet that deadline... How many fights do you feel Lewis could have squeezed into 6 months... you would not know because you know very little about this sport so i will tell you... none as Lewis never fought twice in 6 months while champion... i enjoy mentioning Bowe was linear champ, Byrd & Ruiz..

That wasn't the question. You claimed Lewis had to fight Klitschko on the date Johnson pulled out or be stripped. That's not true. Lewis was scheduled to fight Klitschko in December. You can word it and spin it anyway you want to. But your statement is still and always will be incorrect. Nothing will change that.

[mickey malone]

Quote:
Originally Posted by sonnyboyx2
Saad Muhammad was not really big enough to campaign at 190lbs

Also MSM took too many flush punches to compete in a higher weight class.
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Saad was a tadge small at 5'11" but still starving himself to make 175. The cruisers had only just evolved and 190 was a notoriously shallow pool during it's infancy. Marvin Camel (who'd already been beaten by Saad at 175) was able to become a 2 time champ there, so it still doesn't make any sense. Back then, 175 was probably the bigger hiding to nothing, especially if he was weight weakened, and i am taking on board Saad's limitation of shipping too many flush punches. I mean, who was there at 190 who hit harder than Qawi?... Ocasio? DeLeon maybe?.. I don't recall there being anyone in particular who was a particularly authorative puncher in the division.

Summing up, i just think Saad falls into the Wilfred Benitez category of 'fighters who had short primes.' But i still feel a move up would have been more benificial to him than not.

[sonnyboyx2]

That wasn't the question. You claimed Lewis had to fight Klitschko on the date Johnson pulled out or be stripped. That's not true. Lewis was scheduled to fight Klitschko in December. You can word it and spin it anyway you want to. But your statement is still and always will be incorrect. Nothing will change that.

your trying to twist and contort the facts to suit your agenda and failing miserably... i said Lewis could not "Defend his WBC title against anyone other than Vitali Klitschko or he would be stripped".... so keep trying i am enjoying destroying you

[sonnyboyx2]

Quote:
Originally Posted by sonnyboyx2
Saad Muhammad was not really big enough to campaign at 190lbs

Also MSM took too many flush punches to compete in a higher weight class.
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Saad was a tadge small at 5'11" but still starving himself to make 175. The cruisers had only just evolved and 190 was a notoriously shallow pool during it's infancy. Marvin Camel (who'd already been beaten by Saad at 175) was able to become a 2 time champ there, so it still doesn't make any sense. Back then, 175 was probably the bigger hiding to nothing, especially if he was weight weakened, and i am taking on board Saad's limitation of shipping too many flush punches. I mean, who was there at 190 who hit harder than Qawi?... Ocasio? DeLeon maybe?.. I don't recall there being anyone in particular who was a particularly authorative puncher in the division.

Summing up, i just think Saad falls into the Wilfred Benitez category of 'fighters who had short primes.' But i still feel a move up would have been more benificial to him than not.

Mickey you maybe right in that the 190lb division should have been where Saad Muhammad campaigned towards the end of his career yet i feel it was the brutal wars which he had been in which took there toll on him and shortened his career just like Boom Boom Mancini, Bobby Chacon, Arturo Gatti all warriors who resembled Saad Muhammad with their will too win

[Rockin']

I'd take Foster by decision. Qawi was a tough little firehydrant to stop even though Foster could punch.........Rockin'