Ranking Harry Greb above Sugar Ray Robinson. Can it be justified?

[Barn]

I agree.

It was Calzaghe who first exposed Jeff Lacy....another guy who looked FANTASTIC on camera.

touché

[JAB5239]

touché

Gotta say, that was a rather nice touch!

[Kid McCoy]

Considering you've never seen Greb, probably not.

I've never seen the battle of Waterloo either, but I know it happened, and what happened.

As to the question, yes it can. Greb beat more top fighters in more divisions than Robinson did from welterweight through heavyweight, including 13 Hall of Famers, most of whom he beat multiple times, and about 18 world champions. He defeated virtually every elite fighter of his era in those divisions. Those he didn't beat either ducked him or weren't fighting in the US. Robinson only fought at light-heavy once and never went near a heavyweight; he had a famous riposte for his manager when he offered him a fight with Marciano. And imo Robinson never beat a prime fighter as good as Gene Tunney or Mickey Walker.

[sonnyboyx2]

Yes a case can be made to justify ranking Harry Greb as the greatest fighter who ever lived.. The problem lies with there being no fight-footage available to fight fans of Grebs fights, yet i am sure that his fight with Mickey Walker was filmed as well as one or two more yet they are under lock-and-key...to put into perspective how good Harry Greb was...Greb fought forty-five times in 1919.

-That’s an average of one bout every eight days against an array of sluggers, boxer-punchers, and defensive specialists. That’s a record of 45-0 against not only other middleweights, but light heavyweights and heavyweights –in one calendar year! which is truely amazing and hard to envisage any other fighter including Robinson matching that kind of level.

[katsidis]

The more you study Langford and Greb the more it seems plausible all three have an arguement for GOAT.

As said earlier in the thread, I don't rank anyone I aint seen.

[BigStereotype]

I've never seen the battle of Waterloo either, but I know it happened, and what happened.

As to the question, yes it can. Greb beat more top fighters in more divisions than Robinson did from welterweight through heavyweight, including 13 Hall of Famers, most of whom he beat multiple times, and about 18 world champions. He defeated virtually every elite fighter of his era in those divisions. Those he didn't beat either ducked him or weren't fighting in the US. Robinson only fought at light-heavy once and never went near a heavyweight; he had a famous riposte for his manager when he offered him a fight with Marciano. And imo Robinson never beat a prime fighter as good as Gene Tunney or Mickey Walker.

You know what happened in Waterloo, but not to the level of detail that is really necessary to judge a boxing match. We know about Wellington's deployment and the timely reinforcements, but can you actually tell me every thing that every soldier did, even every division? In boxing, it's about inches, not feet and newspaper articles aren't enough for me to judge the quality of a fighter. I guess you can say that film tells you how good somebody was while a resume tells you how great he was.