More Exciting fight? Meldrick Taylor vs Pryor@140 or Duran vs JCC@135

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  • JAB5239
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    #11
    Originally posted by Tengoshi
    Taylor-Pryor would be ridiculous, that's an all-time action fight there. Duran-Chavez would be a war of attrition, not as exciting.

    I look at it as just different levels of skill. Gatti-Ward was great, But Corrales-Castillo was just as great if not better and fought at a higher skill level. Duran-Chavez would be the Corrales-Castillo of these two fights.

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    • Miburo
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      #12
      Originally posted by JAB5239

      I look at it as just different levels of skill. Gatti-Ward was great, But Corrales-Castillo was just as great if not better and fought at a higher skill level. Duran-Chavez would be the Corrales-Castillo of these two fights.
      Actually I think Duran would dominate JCC and people aren't giving prime Taylor enough credit here (although I'd pick Pryor to stop him). Duran's hands are just too fast for Chavez, and he had the toughness and chin to take it the distance.

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      • wmute
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        #13
        Originally posted by Wild Blue Yonda
        Pryor-Taylor would be a fun fight --- Duran-Chavez would be an epic one.

        It's Duran-Chavez, hands down.
        Duran-Chavez would be by far the most significant fight, but...

        I feel Duran would not fight an exciting fight against Chavez... He would hold him and make him smother himself on the inside. and he often would move to the outside. Anything else would be ******, because it would not use Duran's advantages. Duran was certainly not a ****** fighter, even at his most aggressive.

        On the other hand you have two guys who kept throwing (beautiful!) punches no matter what. No holding at all and not much defense. Can't beat that in terms of "pop corn" moments... you know what I ma saying

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          #14
          Originally posted by wmute
          Duran-Chavez would be by far the most significant fight, but...

          I feel Duran would not fight an exciting fight against Chavez... He would hold him and make him smother himself on the inside. and he often would move to the outside. Anything else would be ******, because it would not use Duran's advantages. Duran was certainly not a ****** fighter, even at his most aggressive.

          On the other hand you have two guys who kept throwing (beautiful!) punches no matter what. No holding at all and not much defense. Can't beat that in terms of "pop corn" moments... you know what I ma saying
          Even though I made another choice and haven't changed my mind, I can't argue with a word of that.

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            #15
            I think Taylor vs. Pryor would be exciting while it lasted. It would be like seeing a fight in fast forward.

            But I think Pryor would overwhelm Taylor and stop him in the mid rounds.

            I voted for Duran-Chavez because of the chance that this fight will be a more longer, competitive war. There is the possibility of Duran beating Chavez in a dirty, ugly one-sided fight, but I think both guys at there best especially at 135 would be a war.

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            • Steak
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              #16
              JCC-Duran would have been the more technically sound, skilled fight...but overall Duran would have swept a majority of the rounds and the level of action would not be as high as you would think. they were both very patient, smart fighters. the infighting level would have been probably the ATG best infighting match ever in terms of expertise.

              I think Pryor is highly overrated(in some respects) and Taylor would give him all he could handle and then some. He was very easy to hit and was knocked down/rocked in a few situations he really shouldnt have, and Taylor was one the fastest combinations punchers of all time...Pryor would have run into punches constantly and always be beaten to the punch. Taylor's footwork was nothing to scoff at either...
              did Pryor ever show he could beat someone that was faster than him?

              in terms of action, Taylor-Pryor would take it. It would be brutal.

              but personally I would go for Duran-Chavez...it would just be an infighting masterpiece that I couldnt miss out on.

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                #17
                Originally posted by blackirish137
                JCC-Duran would have been the more technically sound, skilled fight...but overall Duran would have swept a majority of the rounds and the level of action would not be as high as you would think. they were both very patient, smart fighters. the infighting level would have been probably the ATG best infighting match ever in terms of expertise.

                I think Pryor is highly overrated(in some respects) and Taylor would give him all he could handle and then some. He was very easy to hit and was knocked down/rocked in a few situations he really shouldnt have, and Taylor was one the fastest combinations punchers of all time...Pryor would have run into punches constantly and always be beaten to the punch. Taylor's footwork was nothing to scoff at either...
                did Pryor ever show he could beat someone that was faster than him?

                in terms of action, Taylor-Pryor would take it. It would be brutal.

                but personally I would go for Duran-Chavez...it would just be an infighting masterpiece that I couldnt miss out on.
                My feeling is that Taylor with all of his speed could not hurt Pryor. Taylor did not have the power to keep Pryor off of him. But I definitely think Pryor would have hurt Taylor. I guess I'm the opposite as I think Taylor is slightly overrated. Phenomenal hand/foot speed and combination punching. But lacked power, poor defense , and sometimes would fight ******ly taking unnecessary punishment and risk. I don't think Taylor would have survived from those bombs Pryor took from Arguello.

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                • BennyST
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by wmute
                  Duran-Chavez would be by far the most significant fight, but...

                  I feel Duran would not fight an exciting fight against Chavez... He would hold him and make him smother himself on the inside. and he often would move to the outside. Anything else would be ******, because it would not use Duran's advantages. Duran was certainly not a ****** fighter, even at his most aggressive.

                  On the other hand you have two guys who kept throwing (beautiful!) punches no matter what. No holding at all and not much defense. Can't beat that in terms of "pop corn" moments... you know what I ma saying
                  Originally posted by blackirish137
                  JCC-Duran would have been the more technically sound, skilled fight...but overall Duran would have swept a majority of the rounds and the level of action would not be as high as you would think. they were both very patient, smart fighters. the infighting level would have been probably the ATG best infighting match ever in terms of expertise.

                  I think Pryor is highly overrated(in some respects) and Taylor would give him all he could handle and then some. He was very easy to hit and was knocked down/rocked in a few situations he really shouldnt have, and Taylor was one the fastest combinations punchers of all time...Pryor would have run into punches constantly and always be beaten to the punch. Taylor's footwork was nothing to scoff at either...
                  did Pryor ever show he could beat someone that was faster than him?

                  in terms of action, Taylor-Pryor would take it. It would be brutal.

                  but personally I would go for Duran-Chavez...it would just be an infighting masterpiece that I couldnt miss out on.
                  Yep. I agree with these two completely. I think Duran/Chavez would be the type of fight that you could watch many times over and marvel at the subtle skill and incredibly high level of work being done and one you could watch over and over, but for pure instant entertainment value and all out back and forth action, I think Taylor/Pryor would make for many more pop-corn moments as Wmute put it.

                  Duran/Chavez is of course the much more significant fight, but in excitement terms and guys getting hit and hitting back, getting rocked, going down, winging massive haymakers and fast, multiple punch combos etc etc, it's gotta be Taylor/Pryor.

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                  • Steak
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by joseph5620
                    My feeling is that Taylor with all of his speed could not hurt Pryor. Taylor did not have the power to keep Pryor off of him. But I definitely think Pryor would have hurt Taylor. I guess I'm the opposite as I think Taylor is slightly overrated. Phenomenal hand/foot speed and combination punching. But lacked power, poor defense , and sometimes would fight ******ly taking unnecessary punishment and risk. I don't think Taylor would have survived from those bombs Pryor took from Arguello.
                    Poor defense and taking unneccesary punishment and risk? Thats practically the definition of Pryor. Pryor was hurt/down against a blown up Arguello, an old man version of Cervantes and an unranked in Kameda. While I have a wealth of respect for both Cervantes and especially Arguello, lets face it: Arguello was on his fourth weight class and was at the end of his career, and his defense had looked diminished leading up to the fight after being dropped by so-so Andrew Ganigan and struggling with meh James Busceme.
                    likewise Cervantes was getting on in age.

                    Both quality fighters when Pryor fought them, but you have to admit that they were pretty far from prime conditions.

                    and this is ignoring when Pryor fell off the deep end within two more years with real bad performances.

                    Taylor was able to stop McGirt, who later on would give Pernell Whitaker all he could handle and beat future 154lb champ Simon Brown. the fact that Taylor dominated him like he did is impressive, seeing as McGirt had no trouble at all with Howard Davis(who is another one of the fastest fighters ever)

                    Pryor had never even come close to fighting someone with Taylor's kind of speed, and yet was still tagged and hurt against much slower opponents. not to mention Pryor never came close to fighting someone with Taylor's footspeed.
                    lets not forget Taylor himself was one tough son of a *****. It would take more than him getting rocked to put him away.

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                    • Wild Blue Yonda
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by blackirish137
                      Poor defense and taking unneccesary punishment and risk? Thats practically the definition of Pryor. Pryor was hurt/down against a blown up Arguello, an old man version of Cervantes and an unranked in Kameda. While I have a wealth of respect for both Cervantes and especially Arguello, lets face it: Arguello was on his fourth weight class and was at the end of his career, and his defense had looked diminished leading up to the fight after being dropped by so-so Andrew Ganigan and struggling with meh James Busceme.
                      likewise Cervantes was getting on in age.

                      Both quality fighters when Pryor fought them, but you have to admit that they were pretty far from prime conditions.

                      and this is ignoring when Pryor fell off the deep end within two more years with real bad performances.

                      Taylor was able to stop McGirt, who later on would give Pernell Whitaker all he could handle and beat future 154lb champ Simon Brown. the fact that Taylor dominated him like he did is impressive, seeing as McGirt had no trouble at all with Howard Davis(who is another one of the fastest fighters ever)

                      Pryor had never even come close to fighting someone with Taylor's kind of speed, and yet was still tagged and hurt against much slower opponents. not to mention Pryor never came close to fighting someone with Taylor's footspeed.
                      lets not forget Taylor himself was one tough son of a *****. It would take more than him getting rocked to put him away.
                      Just as Cervantes was old though, McGirt was pretty badly weight-drained. Fair enough, Taylor was beautiful that night, & did a demolition job on McGirt convincing enough to tell me he'd have beaten him no matter what, but it wasn't a 100% McGirt, being fair.

                      If Taylor can go that close to beating Chavez, he deserves at least live underdog status against Pryor. IMO, the early 140lb. Chavez was a little better than Pryor, & would've beaten him at the weight in a great clash.

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