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Are there any swarmers or sluggers with "pretty" styles?

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  • #11
    Originally posted by BigStereotype View Post
    To all these people saying Roberto Duran - what? He was awesome to watch for his skill, but hardly aesthetically pleasing. He clinched and fouled - a lot. A whole lot. Beside the Brawl in Montreal, I would say his "prettiest" fights are against Moore and Barkley. Those were both fights where he was outgunned and boxed his way to a win. Against Moore, he boxed his way inside and beat Davey up, but I wouldn't really say he swarmed him.
    Duran had over 100 fights. There are a lot of fights to choose from. Two or three fights don't represent his career. He didn't just "clinch and foul" in every fght. Of course Duran could fight in different ways but he swarmed Leonard. No doubt about that. And Duran was in no way "outgunned" against Moore and he didn't just outbox him. He destroyed him physically and broke him down.
    Last edited by joseph5620; 12-11-2010, 08:58 PM.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by BigStereotype View Post
      To all these people saying Roberto Duran - what? He was awesome to watch for his skill, but hardly aesthetically pleasing. He clinched and fouled - a lot. A whole lot. Beside the Brawl in Montreal, I would say his "prettiest" fights are against Moore and Barkley. Those were both fights where he was outgunned and boxed his way to a win. Against Moore, he boxed his way inside and beat Davey up, but I wouldn't really say he swarmed him.
      Duran wasn't a swarmer.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
        Duran wasn't a swarmer.



        He was when he chose to fight that way. He could box/counter but he could also swarm when he chose too.


        Last edited by joseph5620; 12-11-2010, 02:09 PM.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
          He was when he chose to fight that way. He could box/counter but he could also swarm when he chose too.
          And Liston could box when he wanted to but that didn't make him a boxer. The point is there was a lot more to Duran's game than that. He wasn't mearly a simple swarmer.....considering his multi-dimensional game I would consider Duran a boxer-puncher more than anything else.

          Poet

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          • #15
            Watching Tyson fight is like watching a well oiled machine. I guess "pretty" is hard to judge since it's different strokes for different folks.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
              And Liston could box when he wanted to but that didn't make him a boxer. The point is there was a lot more to Duran's game than that. He wasn't mearly a simple swarmer.....considering his multi-dimensional game I would consider Duran a boxer-puncher more than anything else.

              Poet
              That wasn't the question and I didn't say he was just a "simple swarmer". I know he wasn't and the fact that that he was multi talented with a lot of different looks to his game. The question was who made it look good and Duran did IMO. Either you agree or you don't. But Duran did swarm a lot of his opponents and that can't even be questioned. It's not like Duran fought every opponent like he did against Hagler.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
                Duran wasn't a swarmer.
                That's what I was saying...

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                • #18
                  Roberto Duran was great because he could come out one round and be antonio margarito chin down coming forward 100 punches in a round, then he could be Bernard Hopkins and destroy you on the inside then he could be Pernell Whitaker and make you look silly

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                  • #19
                    It's kind of contradictory for a swarmer to be "pretty". They try to get in clsoe to do their thing, but a pretty fighter is mroe into grace and subtlety, not constant pressure and punches to wherever like a swarmer. I would have to say Mike Tyson, while not like a Leonard or Robinson, is the most fancy and graceful, speedy looking guy of the swarmers. Of course his knockouts aren't pretty. This is 1985-1989 Tyson. Peekaboo looks more appealing and fast paced than Marciano's hunched over slugging style, and Tyson's bob and weave is faster than Frazier, although they execute them differently.

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                    • #20
                      Excellent question. Tyson comes to mind immediately. Personally Chavez takes it. He never clinched and looked smooth, albeit slow. I thought of Pryor and Pacquiao but they waste movement.

                      I am picking only modern fighters, because it is hard to judge "prettiness" from crappy video.

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