Who are the best Heavyweights all time over 230 pounds?

[Holtol]

I don't believe he was either. As far as size it does matter when you have big man with skills. More times than not, the bigger guy with skills beats the smller guy with skills. Size alone does not matter if the fighter has no skills or limited skills like a Derrick Jefferson or Tye Fields. And the reason I mentioned Lewis was because you claimed he had no case to be considered the best over 230. I think the record says otherwise when you look at every fighter in history over 230 pounds. One thing I do notice is that some people think Holyfield fighting a little better in the second fight means he won the fight. I personally don't see how anybody could score the second fight for Holyfield.

True all things being even I would take the big frame myself. I just don't like the chances of a big men having the same talent as smaller heavyweights. Only because of their lack of numbers.

Actually I did not say that "Lewis is not number one in the group". I said " is he really the best of the group?" I only watched the Holyfield vs Lewis fights once so I may be wrong in how I judged them. Maybe one day I will watch them again.

[them_apples]

that was a prime Holyfield Bowe ****ed up. Prime Holyfield is an aTG, he gives any HW in history a good fight.

Anyone who beats up a prime Holyfield has to be good.

The Holyfield Lewis fought wasn't half of what Bowe fought.