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Ranking Wladimir Klitschko Above Max Schmeling. Can It Be Justified?

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  • #41
    Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
    That is nice but there is no chance that Purrity would not get knocked out by Wlad.....no wait.

    That is nice but there is no chance that Sanders would not get knocked out by Wlad.....no wait.

    That is nice but there is no chance that Brewster would not get knocked out by Wlad.....oh hell, not ANOTHER class-D fighter that slapped the **** out of Wlad.

    Poet

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    • #42
      Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
      That is nice but there is no chance that Purrity would not get knocked out by Wlad.....no wait.

      That is nice but there is no chance that Sanders would not get knocked out by Wlad.....no wait.

      That is nice but there is no chance that Brewster would not get knocked out by Wlad.....oh hell, not ANOTHER class-D fighter that slapped the **** out of Wlad.

      Poet

      lol says the guy who think Julio Cesar Chavez is no better then Arturo Gatti

      Oh and all of the guys you mentioned are bigger stronger and faster the Max Schmelling.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View Post
        lol says the guy who think Julio Cesar Chavez is no better then Arturo Gatti

        Oh and all of the guys you mentioned are bigger stronger and faster the Max Schmelling.
        All those guys don't have half, the boxing ability or ring smarts of Max.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View Post
          lol says the guy who think Julio Cesar Chavez is no better then Arturo Gatti.
          Yeah, you're right: I shouldn't insult Gatti by comparing him to a Don King protected winging cry-baby like Chavez.


          Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View Post
          Oh and all of the guys you mentioned are bigger stronger and faster the Max Schmelling.
          Says the nuthugging size-whore who jacks off over Brewster's fat rolls? :jerk0ff9:

          Poet

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          • #45
            Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View Post
            is 10 pounds really going to make a difference




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            Seriously are you really trying to argue who would win
            First off, Schmeling was no less than 6'1" and weighed in at, around or a little over 200 pounds for most of his fights and he weighed 200 pounds against Louis, not 180.

            Sam Peter, a fat, slow, unskilled HW who dropped Wlad in their first fight numerous times is only 6'2". His weight as high as it was, is not natural because he is fat.

            Lamon Brewster, the guy that knocked Wlad out in five rounds, is also only 6'2" and weighed about 220 pounds against Wlad. All Schmeling is slightly lighter, faster, more skilled version of these guys. Many of the fighters Wlad have faced only had more weight than Schmeling, but weren't necessarily much bigger. The weight is useless anyway when you are coming in slow, fat, with no stamina and no footwork.

            That's what's lacking in most HW's today and it's the big reason why people wonder what would happen against a good, fast, well trained, lean HW with power and skill.

            Personally, I think Wlad will probably be rated higher at the end of his career and I think he is a very, very good HW, but there are questions about what would happen against certain fighters. It's just natural when the era you are in is terrible. Admittedly, if you put Wlad's best few names against Schmeling's it starts to look quite in favour of Schmeling; Louis, Walker, Stribling, Sharkey vs who? I think only Wlad's longevity is the reason he rates close. If not for that he wouldn't be close at all.

            Nonetheless, if we're going to bring up Wlad's poor losses by KO, then we should surely do the same for Schmeling? Max Diekman, Larry Gains and Gypsy Daniels all within the first two rounds. Dabiels was vastly experienced and a good fighter but certainly not great. His other losses were mostly avenged or he had already beaten them (such as Louis) and were against better fighters.
            Last edited by BennyST; 12-14-2010, 02:27 AM.

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            • #46
              I think its ridiculous we are even comparing Wlad to someone who KO'd the greatest heavyweight of all time.

              Wlad doesnt even have a victory that can compare to the Young Stribling win. Stribling had 200 wins, over a hundred KOs, and was in the prime of his career....also had never been stopped!

              Max was the first and only man to KO stribling in 300 bouts.

              No comparison.

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              • #47
                LOL Schmeling would be a small and terrible slow cruiserweight if he fought today.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View Post
                  LOL Schmeling would be a small and terrible slow cruiserweight if he fought today.
                  Please, Schmeling would decimate any cruiser weight today and most of the out of shape heavies.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                    Please, Schmeling would decimate any cruiser weight today and most of the out of shape heavies.

                    Max Schmelling would be considered an extreamly slow and unathletic cruiser weight today.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View Post
                      Max Schmelling would be considered an extreamly slow and unathletic cruiser weight today.
                      With all due respect, you obviously know very little of Schmeling. What makes you think he would be slow an un-athletic?

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