Glen Johnson Why do the judges rob him

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  • sonnyboyx2
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    #11
    Originally posted by Dubstep Demon
    I agree,i see johnson giving him a good old ass whoopin
    i agree, i am with you on this

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    • sonnyboyx2
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      #12
      Originally posted by Scott9945
      Good comments. People seem to ignore that Johnson's biggest win (over Tarver) was a very dubious decision. I'm getting tired of hearing him complain every time he loses and I expect more of the same against Froch, who will beat him no matter where they fight.
      Johnson was a clear winner over Tarver as well as a clear winner over Dawson, Woods (1st two), Ottke & Tarver and had been avoided like the plague by Calzaghe

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      • SCtrojansbaby
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        #13
        Johnson did not beat Dawson and the closeness of that fight was very overrated Dawson very clearly won 8 rounds

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        • Sugarj
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          #14
          Originally posted by poet682006
          I wouldn't put too much stock in this past weekend's fight: A crude clubfighter beat an apathetic klubfighter who had no interest in being there. Nothing to get excited about.

          Poet


          I dont get excited by much these days, ha ha. Certainly not Carl Froch, although he......at the very least is entertaining.

          I'll be very suprised if Johnson beats him, but I wont be hanging my head in shame if I'm wrong on this one.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Sugarj
            I dont get excited by much these days, ha ha. Certainly not Carl Froch, although he......at the very least is entertaining.

            I'll be very suprised if Johnson beats him, but I wont be hanging my head in shame if I'm wrong on this one.
            Froch is going to need distance to win, he isn't going to be able to hurt or back Johnson up, and hasn't shown me his inside game is anything with which he can compete with Johnson in. Since Froch is not the quickest most elusive fighter around I am wondering how he is going to maintain distance that he needs to box effectively from the outside.

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            • sonnyboyx2
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              #16
              Originally posted by Sugarj
              I dont get excited by much these days, ha ha. Certainly not Carl Froch, although he......at the very least is entertaining.

              I'll be very suprised if Johnson beats him, but I wont be hanging my head in shame if I'm wrong on this one.
              Sugarj.. do you want to wager your 36,000 points with me on Froch

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              • RubenSonny
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                #17
                Originally posted by Kid McCoy
                Just because Johnson complains any time he loses a decision doesn't mean he's always being robbed. A close fight is not a robbery no matter who wins. Cloud was not a robbery, the Dawson fights were not robberies (I thought Glen won the first time but still it was close), Ottke was not a robbery, Tarver was not a robbery, the third Woods fight was not a robbery (though he should have won the first two and he did get one, so it's not as if he's getting screwed every fight). And on the subject of dodgy decisions, what about Johnson's win over Tarver?

                I respect Johnson a lot as a tough guy who is willing to fight anyone anywhere. But there is a reason why he has 14 losses, and it's not because he's always being robbed.
                To be fair to him apart from Hopkins and Dawson II(maybe im forgetting 1 or 2 others, he hasn't been beat convincingly, I can easily understand why he complains, hes been on the wrong end of 10 close fights, whether we think they were robberies or not, anyone in his position would feel damned.

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                • TheGreatA
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                  #18
                  He has been outright robbed a few times and has had some close ones go against him. Generally it's because he doesn't ever truly dominate his opponents, he's just a solid workman who is rarely spectacular, but does the job. Can't expect to win the close decisions against hometown fighters or younger pros that are more interesting to the public.

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                  • bojangles1987
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Kid McCoy
                    Just because Johnson complains any time he loses a decision doesn't mean he's always being robbed. A close fight is not a robbery no matter who wins. Cloud was not a robbery, the Dawson fights were not robberies (I thought Glen won the first time but still it was close), Ottke was not a robbery, Tarver was not a robbery, the third Woods fight was not a robbery (though he should have won the first two and he did get one, so it's not as if he's getting screwed every fight). And on the subject of dodgy decisions, what about Johnson's win over Tarver?

                    I respect Johnson a lot as a tough guy who is willing to fight anyone anywhere. But there is a reason why he has 14 losses, and it's not because he's always being robbed.
                    He has almost NEVER gotten the benefit of the doubt in a close fight. The Green fight is a perfect example, most people would say Johnson was winning yet the judges had Green up by ridiculous margins.

                    If I had to say why, it's because there is nothing special about him. He isn't a defensive wizard, he isn't that fast, isn't that strong, so he doesn't stand out. Judges give decisions to guys who stand out.

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                    • sonnyboyx2
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by bojangles1987
                      He has almost NEVER gotten the benefit of the doubt in a close fight. The Green fight is a perfect example, most people would say Johnson was winning yet the judges had Green up by ridiculous margins.

                      If I had to say why, it's because there is nothing special about him. He isn't a defensive wizard, he isn't that fast, isn't that strong, so he doesn't stand out. Judges give decisions to guys who stand out.
                      you are correct, the judges in the Green fight all had Green as a clear leader on their scorecards at the time of the KO yet Johnson had knocked Green from pillar-to-post

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