If you go on accomplishments, there is no comparison. I mean Liston's record in world title fights was 2-2. It would take me awhile to tally up Trinidad's.
If you go on accomplishments, there is no comparison. I mean Liston's record in world title fights was 2-2. It would take me awhile to tally up Trinidad's.
To my mind neither belong on a p4p ATG list: Liston because he was a Heavyweight and Trinidad because he barely cracks the top-15 at Welterweight. If you're having to dip 15 slots into a weight class to put people on a p4p list that's going to be a hell of a long list.
To my mind neither belong on a p4p ATG list: Liston because he was a Heavyweight and Trinidad because he barely cracks the top-15 at Welterweight. If you're having to dip 15 slots into a weight class to put people on a p4p list that's going to be a hell of a long list.
Poet
Just out of interest, who would you rank above Tito at 147?
To my mind neither belong on a p4p ATG list: Liston because he was a Heavyweight and Trinidad because he barely cracks the top-15 at Welterweight. If you're having to dip 15 slots into a weight class to put people on a p4p list that's going to be a hell of a long list.
Poet
But, you act like that is a bad thing. Is not like the WW division is the CW or SMW division with really not much history..
WW is one of the 8 original weight-class as you know, and is arguably one of the greatest, deepest, talented division ever along with MW. So to barely crack your top 15 ATG list speaks volume, you add with being a 3 division titlist thne I don't see why he doesn't belong on a P4P ATG list.
But, then granted does depends if you talking top 50 or top 100 or what have you. Top 50 I don't think neither is in it.
Top 100 I am not if either is in it or not but I think they have somewhat of a case argument. Especially Tito IMO.
Just out of interest, who would you rank above Tito at 147?
Just out of the top of my head in no order
SRR
Hearns
R. Leonard
Mclarnin
Gavilan
Walker
Burley
Napoles
Walcott
Armstrong
Ross
Basillo
Briton
Ted Kid Lewis
Rodriguez
Whitaker
Duran
That is like 17 names. More than half should clearly rank higher than Tito. The rest might have a case to be rank higher at WW than Tito. Some more than others.
And, I am probably missing a couple names, I don't know... The WW division has a very rich deep history.
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