Joe Frazier vs Evander Holyfield

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  • Tiozzo
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    #11
    Originally posted by Obama
    It's worth pointing out that Holyfield did beat Tyson. You don't get a better comparison to Frazier than Mike (at Heavyweight). I'd even say Mike was better. Mike was however on the decline, but so was Holyfield.

    Gotta go with Holyfield...
    I disagree, 2 very different styles

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    • Tiozzo
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      #12
      I personnaly think this would resemble to Holyfield-Qawi 1. Qawi and Frazier are very similar fighters, but Frazier was taller and stronger. A very close fight going to the decision with Holyfield the winner.

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        #13
        Originally posted by BatteredKessler
        I personnaly think this would resemble to Holyfield-Qawi 1. Qawi and Frazier are very similar fighters, but Frazier was taller and stronger. A very close fight going to the decision with Holyfield the winner.

        Not only was he taller and stronger, he was more aggressive, hit harder and had better stamina.

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          #14
          Prime V Prime you would have to pick Frazier and what a fight this would be!

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            #15
            Originally posted by JAB5239

            Not only was he taller and stronger, he was more aggressive, hit harder and had better stamina.
            yeah, I didn't want to get into the details, but yeah

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              #16
              I know its truly a pick em fight but if forced too choose id favour frazier to sneak a split decision-it would be give and take all the way but i can imagine holyfield landing the crisper punches whereas smokin would put more of a beating on evander,but so difficult too say

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                #17
                Originally posted by Dubstep Demon
                I know its truly a pick em fight but if forced too choose id favour frazier to sneak a split decision-it would be give and take all the way but i can imagine holyfield landing the crisper punches whereas smokin would put more of a beating on evander,but so difficult too say
                Holyfield legendary willingness to trade wouldn't play in his favor against Frazier.

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                • Obama
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by boxing boy
                  Holly beat Tyson after his 4 year lay-off(In prison)

                  Frazier was easily better than" post prison" Tyson.

                  Gotta go with Frazier in a late round stoppage.
                  He was but you missed the point. Holyfield was also on the decline by then. If anything Tyson was less used up since he got to sit out and rest for those years. Few guys have looked as good as Holyfield did in the first Tyson fight at that age and after that much mileage.

                  Originally posted by JAB5239

                  Not only was he taller and stronger, he was more aggressive, hit harder and had better stamina.
                  Let's not leave out the fact that he only had about half the technical boxing skills of Qawi.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Obama
                    Let's not leave out the fact that he only had about half the technical boxing skills of Qawi.

                    I believe thats arguable, but at the end of the day it comes down to who was the more effective fighter. I don't believe anyone would argue a prime Frazier was much more effective than a prime Qawi.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by JAB5239

                      I believe thats arguable, but at the end of the day it comes down to who was the more effective fighter. I don't believe anyone would argue a prime Frazier was much more effective than a prime Qawi.
                      Styles make fights. Holyfield had trouble with Qawi due to inexperience and the fact that professor Qawi schooled him on the finer points of the game. Holyfield "won" that fight purely by out working the aging Qawi. Frazier on the other hand isn't going to be giving Evander any boxing lessons. It's just a straight up slug fest. And I'll take Holyfield in one of those against anyone smaller than him.

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