Current Wlad vs. Prime Lennox

[Die Antwoord]

Wlad wins 10 out of 10 times. Ill trust the man who trained both when he said "I could not train a man to beat Wlad."

[Sugarj]

Wlad wins 10 out of 10 times. Ill trust the man who trained both when he said "I could not train a man to beat Wlad." Steward knows more than all of you, if any of you have the boxing credentials of Emmanuel Steward when discussing Wlad vs. Lennox, please present them. Otherwide end thread.

Manny Steward is one of the best trainers in the world no doubt. But he is guilty of the following:

Speaking before hes thought about what he is about to say ('Duran was only a power puncher') comes to mind.

He does tend to big up his own fighters to the press. Hes stated before that Lennox and Wlad have better jabs than Larry Holmes for example, which is ridiculous.

Like Bert Sugar he is prone to the odd bit of verbal garbage. I suppose we all are to a degree. But I'd have no doubt in claiming that Steward could train another heavyweight to beat Wlad, he is good but hardly unbeatable. In fact a comment like that is very costly when Wlad does get beat again......it would imply that the other fighter's trainer is superior to Steward!

As for the matchup, I favour Lewis. Out of ten meetings I'd give him seven wins.

[Die Antwoord]

Manny Steward is one of the best trainers in the world no doubt. But he is guilty of the following:

Speaking before hes thought about what he is about to say ('Duran was only a power puncher') comes to mind.

He does tend to big up his own fighters to the press. Hes stated before that Lennox and Wlad have better jabs than Larry Holmes for example, which is ridiculous.

Like Bert Sugar he is prone to the odd bit of verbal garbage. I suppose we all are to a degree. But I'd have no doubt in claiming that Steward could train another heavyweight to beat Wlad, he is good but hardly unbeatable. In fact a comment like that is very costly when Wlad does get beat again......it would imply that the other fighter's trainer is superior to Steward!

As for the matchup, I favour Lewis. Out of ten meetings I'd give him seven wins.

So both are his fighters. Again I dont see a resume equal to manny's out of you, so you are wrong and Wlad wins 10 out of 10 times.

[SonnyboyReturns]

Lennox wins 9 out of 10. 1 out of 10 Lennox slips and busts his head entering the ring.

Poet

haha

did you just quote the simulator?

[Die Antwoord]

Why doesnt he use the simulator to predict current fights and win millions. Whose going to win Vitali or Briggs, Margs or Pac, these should be easy ones, but lets see how "accurate" the simulator is.

[StarshipTrooper]

haha

did you just quote the simulator?

Nope, I quoted common sense :grin9:

Poet

[The_Demon]

Lennox wins 8 out of 10

[Holtol]

Not only that, but Lennox can match Wlad in reach which essentially nullifies Wlad's pawing jab: Unlike the usual short-armed sacrificial lamb they've been feeding to Wlad the past several years.

Poet

Wlad's jab is hard and fast sometimes he does not snap it out at full speed every time. I think Wlad's jab is maybe even a bit more deadly then Lewis's jab ,But it is hard to say for sure.

[BKM-]

Lennox wins 9 out of 10. 1 out of 10 Lennox slips and busts his head entering the ring.

Poet

LOL!! good one again Poet.

Anyway I'll take Lennox most of the time. He beat the better klitchko when he was old and out of shape so I don't see Wlad being a bigger problem prime for prime.

[StarshipTrooper]

Wlad's jab is hard and fast sometimes he does not snap it out at full speed every time. I think Wlad's jab is maybe even a bit more deadly then Lewis's jab ,But it is hard to say for sure.

To give you an idea what my benchmark is for Heavyweight jabs watch some of Larry Holmes' in-prime fights: He throws it over and over and over again and every on is like a piston.

Poet