Jerry Quarry- today?

[Tiozzo]

Out of the current Ring top 10 HWs, I think he beats Dimitrenko, Valuev, Boytsov, Chagaev and Adamek, loses to Chambers and Wlad. Klitschko, toss up fights with Haye and Vitali Klitschko (who at 39 is starting to slide.)

George Foreman is likely giving respect to a very good contender in the toughest HW era ever, but I seriously doubt he ducked him, or that Quarry would've lasted the distance with George.

Why are you casting doubt on something which actually happened, Quarry hammered Shavers to put himself in the No1 position to fight Foreman, Newspapers was calling for that fight as well as the general public yet Foreman wanted nothing to do with Jerry Quarry. Yet because you was not around at that time you are doubting that it ever happened so i suggest you watch the Quarry vs Shavers fight with interviews and you will see & hear both Gil Clancy & Don Dunphy both calling for Foreman to step up and fight Jerry Quarry the No1 contender... Why would Quarry not last the distance with Foreman yet he hammered Ron Lyle, Earnie Shavers & Big Mac Foster who all measured up to Foreman, Quarry chopped down Buster Mathis who was huge compared to Foreman, Quarry beat Tony Alongi who was bigger than Foreman with Lyle & Shavers both just as powerful as Foreman, George and his team knew that Quarry was a very good counter-puncher with a chin made of iron

go to 1:45 and see if Jim Jeffries is right with his ****** doubts

[Tiozzo]

if ordinary 6'1 and 220 lbs chubby Ruslan Chagaev was able to win a title, the great Quarry, 6'0 195-200 lbs of iron would definitely have become a titlist in this era

he was a great counterpuncher, he had a great chin, power, heart, he defeated some very good fighters, fought everybody he could

his tendancy to cut broke his dream to become champion unfortunately

[Scott9945]

rubbish... Quarry lost in 69 on cuts to Frazier in a fight that was a classic, Quarry fought his way back to be No1 contender for Foremans title and there was huge demand for Foreman to fight Quarry with quarry being voted the most popular fighter in the world from 1967-70 he hammered Shavers in the opening round to cement his position as No1 contender... i have both fights of Quarry vs Alongi and IMO Quarry won both fights, i brought up Alongi as he is similar in height to Foreman whereas Buster Mathis was a huge man who was nimble on his feet and had very good boxing skills that was far better than what Foreman had yet Quarry destroyed Mathis who was 30-1.. Foreman would have needed far more than a big punch to beat Jerry Quarry as Shavers, Lyle & Foster all found out.. Quarry was only a novice pro when he fought Alongi twice with Alongi being tipped for stardom and Rocky Marciano even buying into his contract.

I have some issues here. Quarry had a few great rounds with Frazier, but he was taking a beating when the fight was stopped. Quarry was voted the most popular fighter in the world? By who? And how many times can I say it, Buster Mathis had very little in common with George Foreman. Mostly that his post Olympic career was a dismal failure compared to George's tremendous success. When Quarry KO'd Shavers, Earnie was pretty much unknown and hadn't had his biggest wins yet. You have both Quarry-Alongi fights? Wow, I would have guessed they are extremely rare, if not non existent. So now you say you thought Quarry won both fights, when before you presented it as fact. Alongi was never a serious contender. That's probably because in his entire career he never beat a top 20 heavyweight. And by top 20 I really mean top 50. I met Jerry Quarry several times and respected him. His wins over Foster and Lyle were terrific. But I'm not going to sit here while someone romanticizes his career fictiously.

[DeepSleep]

Quarry would chop up all the current crop of Heavyweights fairly easily except Wlad and Vitali.

Quarry fighting Wlad would be a battle to see whether Quarry could solve Wlad's jab in time before his face gets ripped up. I'm not sure he could figure him out fast enough and I'd favor Wlad to stop him on cuts.

I don't see him beating Vitali. Vitali's chin is cast iron and he can throw some serious bombs. Quarry gets dragged into a brawl and KO'd.

Other than those two I can't imagine anyone troubling him too much. I have never seen him fight a southpaw but I'll assume he would handle Chagaev/Ibrigamov based on the relative skill levels involved.

[sonnyboyx2]

I have some issues here. Quarry had a few great rounds with Frazier, but he was taking a beating when the fight was stopped. Quarry was voted the most popular fighter in the world? By who? And how many times can I say it, Buster Mathis had very little in common with George Foreman. Mostly that his post Olympic career was a dismal failure compared to George's tremendous success. When Quarry KO'd Shavers, Earnie was pretty much unknown and hadn't had his biggest wins yet. You have both Quarry-Alongi fights? Wow, I would have guessed they are extremely rare, if not non existent. So now you say you thought Quarry won both fights, when before you presented it as fact. Alongi was never a serious contender. That's probably because in his entire career he never beat a top 20 heavyweight. And by top 20 I really mean top 50. I met Jerry Quarry several times and respected him. His wins over Foster and Lyle were terrific. But I'm not going to sit here while someone romanticizes his career fictiously.

You don't know what you are talking about, here is a little article on Alongi which reads nothing remotely like your script.

Career Review

Tony Alongi was a highly regarded and highly touted heavyweight prospect in the early 1960s.

Standing over 6 feet 5 inches, Alongi had a keen interest in boxing as a teenager. His favorite fighter was undefeated world heavyweight champion Rocky Marciano. Alongi dreamed of not only a professional boxing career and winning the world heavyweight title, but of also retiring undefeated.

In 1955, Tony made his first amateur boxing start. Within two short years, Alongi won the 1956 New Jersey Golden Gloves Middleweight Championship, and the 1957 New Jersey Golden Glove Lightheavyweight Championship. Tony retired from amateur boxing with an undefeated record of 27-0 (12 knockouts).

Alongi came under the guidance of legendary trainer and former boxer, Charley Goldman. Goldman had trained Alongi's idol Marciano. In a storybook setting, Alongi became the protege of Rocky Marciano.

Using a stand-up boxer-puncher style, the lanky Alongi soon took the boxing world by storm. He scored impressive victories over undefeated fellow prospects, Todd Herring and Jefferson Davis. After two years in the ring, Alongi had complied an unbeaten record of 27-0 (16 knockouts). He made the cover of boxing magazines. In Miami, his adopted hometown, he became the number 1 drawing card for promoter Chris Dundee. A title shot seemed certain. Then, just like that, the Tony Alongi express-train to greatness was derailed.

On February 7, 1962, Alongi was on his way to a points victory over Argentine heavyweight Rodolfo Diaz, when the referee stopped the fight with only seconds remaining in the 10th and final round. Alongi's eye was swollen shut and the ring official felt he was in danger of serious injury. Many Alongi fans blamed the eye injury on a head-butt; Diaz's followers said it was his jab which caused the eye to swell.

Alongi's dream of remaining undefeated was ended. He seemed to lose that spark which had so inspired his career. Two fights later he lost an upset stoppage to promising Billy Daniels; it seemed Tony Alongi days as a future champion had come to an end.

Alongi surprised the experts by launching a comeback. He went 11-0-4 on his return, including draws with top-rated Jerry Quarry and George Chuvalo. Then in 1967, at age 27, Tony suddenly announced his retirement.

Once he left the fighting world, Tony lived a quiet and normal life in South Florida.

When he died at age 64 on November 27, 2003, his Miami Herald published death notice never even mentioned his professional boxing career.

[sonnyboyx2]

I have some issues here. Quarry had a few great rounds with Frazier, but he was taking a beating when the fight was stopped. Quarry was voted the most popular fighter in the world? By who? And how many times can I say it, Buster Mathis had very little in common with George Foreman. Mostly that his post Olympic career was a dismal failure compared to George's tremendous success. When Quarry KO'd Shavers, Earnie was pretty much unknown and hadn't had his biggest wins yet. You have both Quarry-Alongi fights? Wow, I would have guessed they are extremely rare, if not non existent. So now you say you thought Quarry won both fights, when before you presented it as fact. Alongi was never a serious contender. That's probably because in his entire career he never beat a top 20 heavyweight. And by top 20 I really mean top 50. I met Jerry Quarry several times and respected him. His wins over Foster and Lyle were terrific. But I'm not going to sit here while someone romanticizes his career fictiously.

you query my points because you know nothing about what i am talking about then you come out with several `Howlers`which you claim are facts yet in fairness your talking garbage.
1/. Alonge beat top contenders, he fought a draw with George Chuvalo in 1963 when Chuvalo was at the very top of his game, many ringside reporters had Alongi the winner.
2/. Quarry was voted the most popular fighter in the world from 67-70 by Ring Magazine & Boxing Illustrated Mag.
3/. Buster Mathis was a bigger guy than Foreman and Buster was a very good fighter wether you like it or not.
3/. Shavers had a 46-2 record coming into the Quarry fight in 1973 with KO wins over Jimmy Ellis & Jimmy Young, Shavers was at the top of his game and to claim otherwise is laughable.. Quarry hammered Shavers in devastating fashion something Holmes, Norton, Lyle nor Muhammad Ali could do.
4/. Quarry vs Along (1) & (2) fights are not "Non-Existent" as i happen to have both fights like i said previously along with 27 more fights of Jerry Quarry.
5/. i aint romanticizing the career of Jerry Quarry, i am telling it how it unfolded but you are trying to diminish a great fighters achievements when the truth of it is that you don't know what you are talking about because i have just proved you wrong on almost everything you are trying to claim

[BennyST]

rubbish... Quarry lost in 69 on cuts to Frazier in a fight that was a classic, Quarry fought his way back to be No1 contender for Foremans title and there was huge demand for Foreman to fight Quarry with quarry being voted the most popular fighter in the world from 1967-70 he hammered Shavers in the opening round to cement his position as No1 contender... i have both fights of Quarry vs Alongi and IMO Quarry won both fights, i brought up Alongi as he is similar in height to Foreman whereas Buster Mathis was a huge man who was nimble on his feet and had very good boxing skills that was far better than what Foreman had yet Quarry destroyed Mathis who was 30-1.. Foreman would have needed far more than a big punch to beat Jerry Quarry as Shavers, Lyle & Foster all found out.. Quarry was only a novice pro when he fought Alongi twice with Alongi being tipped for stardom and Rocky Marciano even buying into his contract.

You have both fights on dvd? Really? What's the commentary like? Or who is it again that's commentating?

[sonnyboyx2]

You have both fights on dvd? Really? What's the commentary like? Or who is it again that's commentating?

yes i have both fights on dvd, you seem to be questioning me as if you feel i am lying?... Quarry v Alongi (1) is silent and their 2nd fight i could say whoever i feel like saying is doing the commentary because you would not be able to question me on it simply because you dont have the fight, both fights are in B&W and quite good quality as are all the fights i have of Jerry Quarry

[Scott9945]

you query my points because you know nothing about what i am talking about then you come out with several `Howlers`which you claim are facts yet in fairness your talking garbage.
1/. Alonge beat top contenders, he fought a draw with George Chuvalo in 1963 when Chuvalo was at the very top of his game, many ringside reporters had Alongi the winner.
2/. Quarry was voted the most popular fighter in the world from 67-70 by Ring Magazine & Boxing Illustrated Mag.
3/. Buster Mathis was a bigger guy than Foreman and Buster was a very good fighter wether you like it or not.
3/. Shavers had a 46-2 record coming into the Quarry fight in 1973 with KO wins over Jimmy Ellis & Jimmy Young, Shavers was at the top of his game and to claim otherwise is laughable.. Quarry hammered Shavers in devastating fashion something Holmes, Norton, Lyle nor Muhammad Ali could do.
4/. Quarry vs Along (1) & (2) fights are not "Non-Existent" as i happen to have both fights like i said previously along with 27 more fights of Jerry Quarry.
5/. i aint romanticizing the career of Jerry Quarry, i am telling it how it unfolded but you are trying to diminish a great fighters achievements when the truth of it is that you don't know what you are talking about because i have just proved you wrong on almost everything you are trying to claim

Alongi (who is listed on box-rec as 6'3 not 6'5) never beat a top 20 contender. Sorry, but draws that you think he should have won don't count.

Mathis was a big (fat) guy who had good skills, quick hands, and almost no power. In other words he was the opposite of George Foreman. Except for Chuvalo, he never had a major win in his highly disappointing career.

And so far you haven't really proven anything, except that what you present as facts needs to be scrutinized.

[Scott9945]

yes i have both fights on dvd, you seem to be questioning me as if you feel i am lying?... Quarry v Alongi (1) is silent and their 2nd fight i could say whoever i feel like saying is doing the commentary because you would not be able to question me on it simply because you dont have the fight, both fights are in B&W and quite good quality as are all the fights i have of Jerry Quarry

So where can I obtain copies of these obscure fights from the 1960's?