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  • #71
    Originally posted by "Marvelous" View Post
    Still waiing for your pound for pound list after you openly critiscised mine in such a crude way. This should be fun.
    He has said in the past that he doesn't think Harry Greb, Benny Leonard, Jimmy Wilde, Willie Pep and Bob Fitzsimmons deserve to be top 20 ATGs because they apparently didn't fight any Latino boxers and now Barney Ross isn't great and McLarnin isn't an ATG according to him , is it me or is there at pattern there ?.

    Would love to see his top 50 list or even his top 20 list.
    Last edited by NChristo; 09-19-2010, 11:14 AM.

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    • #72
      1. Ali
      2. Tyson
      3. SRR
      4. SRL
      5. Armstrong
      6. Duran
      7. Foreman
      8. Langford
      9. Pacquiao
      10. Hearns
      11. Whitaker
      12. JCC
      13. Charles
      14. Moore
      15. Frazier
      16. Hopkins
      17. RJJ
      18. Mayweather
      19. Arguello
      20. Liston

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Morales. View Post
        1. Ali
        2. Tyson
        3. SRR
        4. SRL
        5. Armstrong
        6. Duran
        7. Foreman
        8. Langford
        9. Pacquiao
        10. Hearns
        11. Whitaker
        12. JCC
        13. Charles
        14. Moore
        15. Frazier
        16. Hopkins
        17. RJJ
        18. Mayweather
        19. Arguello
        20. Liston
        Well its pretty obvious that your biased against white fighters.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Morales. View Post
          1. Ali
          2. Tyson
          3. SRR
          4. SRL
          5. Armstrong
          6. Duran
          7. Foreman
          8. Langford
          9. Pacquiao
          10. Hearns
          11. Whitaker
          12. JCC
          13. Charles
          14. Moore
          15. Frazier
          16. Hopkins
          17. RJJ
          18. Mayweather
          19. Arguello
          20. Liston
          Tyson #2 P4P? OMFG! Nuthugger from Hell!

          Poet

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Morales. View Post
            1. Ali
            2. Tyson
            3. SRR
            4. SRL
            5. Armstrong
            6. Duran
            7. Foreman
            8. Langford
            9. Pacquiao
            10. Hearns
            11. Whitaker
            12. JCC
            13. Charles
            14. Moore
            15. Frazier
            16. Hopkins
            17. RJJ
            18. Mayweather
            19. Arguello
            20. Liston

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Morales. View Post
              So your including a win over a shot Leonard. Ambers, Fuller and Canzoneri fought as near LWs on fight night while he came in as a WW. You do realise that McLarnins win over Taylor was by DQ and he lost the 2 other bouts.

              You dont rate Floyds win over JMM yet you rate McLarnin's wins over LWs though. Based on your logic McLarnin cant be an ATG then.

              Im looking at their respective resumes as a whole. Floyds simply doesn't compare to McLarnin or Ross. Like I said, you really need to lay off the boxrec and brush up on the actual history. Peace.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                Im looking at their respective resumes as a whole. Floyds simply doesn't compare to McLarnin or Ross. Like I said, you really need to lay off the boxrec and brush up on the actual history. Peace.
                You say that there is no comparison between them. Thats again clear nuthugging of past fighters, if someones unbeaten in 5 weight classes with 3 lineal titles then hes earned the right to be compared to anyone in history.

                Floyd would beat all those fighters if he came in as a WW and he was fighting LWs then he would easily win lopsided decisons against them. Theres no way you beat Floyd if you dont impose your size on him and how is a fighter weighing 10lbs less than him going to do that.

                You yourself discredited the Marquez win, yet you list these as big wins for McLarnin. Which is it ? either both should receive credit or none of them does.

                If your arguments that they fought in a better era then that also has double standards to it. You rate Louis as the greatest heavyweight of all time yet Ali clearly has a better resume. Louis went through his resume with difficulty against bad opposition in comparison with Alis. Floyd has been as dominant as Louis if not more so. Yet you have Louis as better than Ali despite his inferior resume. Surely if theirs no comparison between Floyd and Ross or McLarnin. Theres none between Ali and Louis.

                In fact the era Floyds fought in is a tougher one. Boxing is alot more diverse now then it was then. You have great fighters from all over the world, not dobting the diversity back then but you have to acknowledge the fighters Mexico and PR had produced. Neither Ross or McLarnin has beat a fighter like Corrales or Castillo. Floyd has beaten fighters of all styles.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Morales. View Post
                  Ali has the better resume and ducked noone. Thats why hes greater than SRR.

                  Ali never got KOed by a Schmelling. Ever hear of Joe Louis' bum of the month club where he racked up his numerous defences. Ali would have broken that had he not been forced into exile.

                  Ali has more heart than Duran.
                  Your a joke

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Morales. View Post
                    You say that there is no comparison between them. Thats again clear nuthugging of past fighters, if someones unbeaten in 5 weight classes with 3 lineal titles then hes earned the right to be compared to anyone in history.

                    No he has not. Carlos Baldomir was the lineal welterweight champ, should he be compared with the like of Leonard and Robinson? Of course not. The reason.....his comp isn't comparable. Same applies in this situation. That isn't nut hugging, its reality.

                    Floyd would beat all those fighters if he came in as a WW and he was fighting LWs then he would easily win lopsided decisons against them. Theres no way you beat Floyd if you dont impose your size on him and how is a fighter weighing 10lbs less than him going to do that.

                    This is an assumption no way provable.

                    You yourself discredited the Marquez win, yet you list these as big wins for McLarnin. Which is it ? either both should receive credit or none of them does.

                    I look at the whole resume. If you want to take out Leonard and Taylor and McLarnins resume is still head and shoulders above Floyd.

                    In fact the era Floyds fought in is a tougher one.

                    Really, why don't you tell me all about it?

                    Boxing is alot more diverse now then it was then. You have great fighters from all over the world, not dobting the diversity back then but you have to acknowledge the fighters Mexico and PR had produced.
                    Fine, acknowledged. But you have to acknowledge boxing was a much more popular sport than with many more fighters involved professionally. If you have more fighters you have more comp. Less weight classes and titles to win make the comp that much tougher. Its very simple when you think about it objectively.
                    Neither Ross or McLarnin has beat a fighter like Corrales or Castillo. Floyd has beaten fighters of all styles.

                    No, they beat better fighters. Neither Castillo or Corrales was ever considered the best p4p fighter in the world.

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