Liston vs. Vitali Klitschko

[beez721]

Prime Vitali lost to an out of shape Lewis, if he cant beat that version of Lewis how is he going to beat Liston?

his skin doesnt open up this time?

[beez721]

Cleveland Williams...matched up with Vitali in size. I mean im not even going to get into the lunacy of your post. Just this stuck out because its not even debatable. You are a clear troll, obvious troll.

Cleveland Williams= 6'3 212 lbs.
Vitali Klitschko=6'8 250 lbs

5 inches and 40 lbs...omg...they might be identical twins. Someone needs to check the DNA out. Tomasz Adamek was giving up about 5 inches and 40 lbs to Michael Grant.....similar size? You are a joke? Exactly how did they "match up" in size? Because Vitali could eat him?

You know who else has a pole for a jab and a devastating right bomb...oh and a far superior chin to Liston...Vitali. Vitali never got KO'ed by a jab. Also Cleveland williams was KO'ed by a guy weighing 175 lbs. I suppose you think he has a chin better than Vitali since hes better than Vitali in every way imaginable...(even though while fighting mostly cruisers in his career, his ko% is 30% lower than Vitali's, and his chin was nowhere close to Vitali's and he wasnt as big, as strong, as tall etc...)

The guy thinks 6'3 212...matched up with 6'8 250. How can you debate with someone like that?

lol,,classic ownage

[sonnyboyx2]

i also would like to knw where sonnyboy gets his heights from

you tell me where you get your heights from?

[sonnyboyx2]

Ok im not going to take the time to read all of that. Again 60% of the guys Lewis fought were bigger than the biggest guy Liston ever fought. If you dont think size matters in boxing, well you all must love FLoyd and think Pacquiao doesnt belong in the same sentence as Floyd. I mean Floyd killed JMM. Abused and embarassed him. Pac and JMM have been equals pretty much when they met. So I guess you all love Floyd. Not to mention Pacs biggest accomplishments have been that he fights bigger guys and Floyds biggest criticism is that he fauls noteworthy but smaller guys. So you guys who dont think size matters, must think FLoyd is the GOAT. Hes never lost, fought tons of top 10 p4p fighters, HOFers. He must be considered the GOAT by you guys am I correct?

Also I didnt say Vitali hit harder than Tyson. I quoted RJJ who said it during the Danny Williams vs. Vitali fight.Vitali was bigger than carnera not vice versa, I dont know where Sonny Boy gets his measurements from but its ridiculous. Its not even like worth mentioning or fighting him on his measurements.

Prove that Liston was training for 15 rounds. He quit against Ali after 7 and he only had 4 15 rounders in his life and he lost 50% of them. Vitali breathes more through his mouth early on in fights than later, it has more to do with calming down and what hes comfortable with than anything. We have seen Vitali throw 100 punches in 12 rounds.

Liston only fought 3 12 round matches. 3. Vitali 23.

So Liston had to train for 7 fights past 10 rounds

Vitali had to train for 23 fights past 10 rounds

Please give me an example of some of Listons great conditioning.

So its ok for Vitali to quit against Chris Byrd but not for Liston to quit against Muhammad Ali....

Name for me the fighters Vitali has beaten who are better class than Sonny Liston or better class than the fighters Sonny Liston has beaten

You dont have nothing in your argument other than height & weight yet Liston butchered Chuck Wepner who was the same height as Vitali

as always you will avoid answering these questions

[Zizou2]

So its ok for Vitali to quit against Chris Byrd but not for Liston to quit against Muhammad Ali....

Name for me the fighters Vitali has beaten who are better class than Sonny Liston or better class than the fighters Sonny Liston has beaten

You dont have nothing in your argument other than height & weight yet Liston butchered Chuck Wepner who was the same height as Vitali

as always you will avoid answering these questions

Where do you get your heights from??

Stop making things up. Chuck Wepner was 6'5"

Vitali is 6'8"

You should be banned for trolling sonnyboy.


Now stop ducking the question and tell us where you get your stats from.

[sonnyboyx2]

Where do you get your heights from??

Stop making things up. Chuck Wepner was 6'5"

Vitali is 6'8"

You should be banned for trolling sonnyboy.


Now stop ducking the question and tell us where you get your stats from.

i don't get them from boxrec like you do

[sonnyboyx2]

Where do you get your heights from??

Stop making things up. Chuck Wepner was 6'5"

Vitali is 6'8"

You should be banned for trolling sonnyboy.


Now stop ducking the question and tell us where you get your stats from.

show me evidence via a link which claims Vitali Klitschko is 6ft 8ins tall

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more_sports/2009/09/25/2009-09-25_klitschko.html

[Zizou2]

i don't get them from boxrec like you do

Answer the question.

Wepner is only 6'5" and you said he is the same height as Vitali.


STOP LYING you idiot


Provide evidence now.

[Zizou2]

show me evidence via a link which claims Vitali Klitschko is 6ft 8ins tall

Vitali has always been listed as between 6'7-6'8"

Now provide evidence to prove Wepner is 6'7-6'8".



I'm waiting sonnyboy.

[r.burgundy]

you tell me where you get your heights from?

the actual fights and boxrec