Liston vs. Vitali Klitschko

[VibesMan]

What's the next big one coming? Wlad - Peter II?

Poet

Yeah I guess.

Know nothing about this programme your using but I'm guessing it doesn't take into account historical facts (i.e. what happened in Wlad/Peter1)?


Sounds like a good conversational piece but you gotta question it's accuracy!!

Be fun to run some upcomers and track how close it gets it though.

[StarshipTrooper]

Yeah I guess.

Know nothing about this programme your using but I'm guessing it doesn't take into account historical facts (i.e. what happened in Wlad/Peter1)?


Sounds like a good conversational piece but you gotta question it's accuracy!!

Be fun to run some upcomers and track how close it gets it though.

This is a pretty onesided fight:

Card I: Wlad 115, Peter 111
Card II: Wlad 116, Peter 109
Card III: Wlad 116, Peter 109

Poet

[VibesMan]

This is a pretty onesided fight:

Card I: Wlad 115, Peter 111
Card II: Wlad 116, Peter 109
Card III: Wlad 116, Peter 109

Poet

I suspect it may be pretty close to the mark on this one.

You ever run Hagle - Hearns? Do you set the parameters in terms of fighter weight/age etc?

[StarshipTrooper]

I suspect it may be pretty close to the mark on this one.

You ever run Hagle - Hearns? Do you set the parameters in terms of fighter weight/age etc?

I can set weightclass, career stage, and conditioning. In these matchups I usually set the career stage for "Prime" and the conditioning for "Top Condition". If I'm trying to recreate a specific historical matchup then I try to match those things to what was actually in place at the actual fight.

Poet

[GJC]

cite? no? didnt think so

Also why are you all dodging the question. Didnt Liston put blinding substances on his gloves? How can you take any of his record seriously, or do you guys also believe Margarito did it once as well?

You cite.
You're the one making the wild accusations, i'm tired of feeding facts to alts who then ignore them with their next id.

Something got in Ali's eyes in the first Liston fight, whether Liston's gloves had been "juiced" or whether it was linament that had strayed onto his gloves is a matter for conjecture. You don't know enough about boxing to stray beyond the Klitschko borthers so lets not bring Margarito into this debate because you are losing and now want to tilt at windmills.

[frankenfrank]

Please tell me how anybody not named Ali gives Liston a savage, one-sided beating. This should be good...

Exactly . Only (a guy named) Ali could expose Liston. Allah was with him from the start.
Allah hu akbar.

[SonnyboyReturns]

cite? nope didnt think so. I can provide many sources that say it was illegal what Ali did.

You're claiming Ali did something illegal. Prove it.

[Fightfan82]

I have seen my Liston fights and I don't think he would be much of a threat. Vitali is to big for him.

[Die Antwoord]

You cite.
You're the one making the wild accusations, i'm tired of feeding facts to alts who then ignore them with their next id.

Something got in Ali's eyes in the first Liston fight, whether Liston's gloves had been "juiced" or whether it was linament that had strayed onto his gloves is a matter for conjecture. You don't know enough about boxing to stray beyond the Klitschko borthers so lets not bring Margarito into this debate because you are losing and now want to tilt at windmills.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-1201409/Dodgy-swords-marathon-car-half-horse-race-self-harm-infected-boxing-gloves--Sportsmail-reveals-devious-sporting-cheats-history.html

"What is certain though is that Dundee used illegal smelling salts to revive Clay..."


quit lying dude, i can find 50 more articles that show that the smelling salts used were illegal and that they were banned over a decade before in England...under which rules the fight was held and where the fight was held. Find me one thing that says they were legal or banned at some later date, you cant. Ali cheated to beat a LHW. Its cool dude, im sure lots of fighters would have to cheat to beat Henry Cooper.

Mr. Boxing Historian just got himself ownt. Try talking **** and talking down at me, you idolize a cheater, get over it. I assume youre a big Margarito fan too.

Just find me one cite that says he didnt cheat then, one. 1 cite. Get all your chronies to go searching for it. Find me one single cite. In absence of any cite its clear that Ali cheated to beat LHW Henry Cooper.

[Die Antwoord]

You cite.
You're the one making the wild accusations, i'm tired of feeding facts to alts who then ignore them with their next id.

Something got in Ali's eyes in the first Liston fight, whether Liston's gloves had been "juiced" or whether it was linament that had strayed onto his gloves is a matter for conjecture. You don't know enough about boxing to stray beyond the Klitschko borthers so lets not bring Margarito into this debate because you are losing and now want to tilt at windmills.

Wild accusations? You cant even come up with a cite for your accusation that what dundee did was legal. Just one cite dude. One.