Rocky Marciano VS Mike Tyson.

[butterfly1964]

marciano is too small, so tyson crushes him in one.

[Brockton Lip]

Hah, I hope you're joking. Marciano knocked out in the first round is ridiculous. He might take a beating at first but he wouldn't get knocked out.

[Da Iceman]

he would take a beating like he did walcott and come back maybe 7'th or 8'th round and ko an exhausted tyson

[TuPrincipe]

You make some good points but i simply have to disagree, simply cos the type of training either received.

I mean you look at modern day, the nutrionalists and all that, then you look at what resources Rocky had available to him. Simple Rocky would not be able to keep up with the requirememnts of a modern day boxer like Tyson with all his power, far exceeding that of Rocky's and also lets not forget that Rocky's chin was only tested by the men he fought. Tyson's chin has been tested by the likes of some of the heaviest hitters the world has ever seen.

Sorry but Tyson by late KO/TKO in my opinion.

It doesn't matter what era you are from.

Just because the training is perceived to be "better" does not mean jack squat when you get down to it. The fighters today are bigger, stronger, and sometimes faster. Does that mean they can throw straight, textbook punches? Keep in mind, I'm not referencing to Marciano but the overall cliche of today's fighters being better then yesterday's fighters. WRONG on all counts!!

Today's fighters are protected by business interests and the big money pay-off of a PPV extravaganza. But don’t try and convince me that they are "better" because they fight today, as opposed to yesterday.

Rocky's tenacious nature, awkward style and tremendous physical gifts would provide any opponent with a serious problem. Any fighter can be beat on any given day (boxing is a see-saw battle of wills and jigsaw esque style clashes), but Marciano's 49-0 (above all else) represents he came into every fight with the intentions to do everything in his very great power to come through the victor. He's too much man for Tyson, and this would be the ultimate factor.

Not only is your explanation wrong IMO, but it is terribly naive just to make the assumption that today's fighters are better.

[LondonRingRules]

Hah, I hope you're joking. Marciano knocked out in the first round is ridiculous. He might take a beating at first but he wouldn't get knocked out.

That's what HOFers Larry Holmes and Michael Spinks said before Tyson turned them into his personal highlight reel. Guess what? Tyson is the only fighter to ever treat them so badly.

I love Rocky, but prime to prime he has the same chance they had...........none.

[TuPrincipe]

That's what HOFers Larry Holmes and Michael Spinks said before Tyson turned them into his personal highlight reel. Guess what? Tyson is the only fighter to ever treat them so badly.

I love Rocky, but prime to prime he has the same chance they had...........none.

I don't buy that argument.

After taking almost a two-year lay-off Holmes came back to challenge Mike Tyson for the world title. Holmes hadn’t prepared properly and when Tyson was at the top of his game, the result was not a real fight at all.

[Soliloquy]

It doesn't matter what era you are from.

Just because the training is perceived to be "better" does not mean jack squat when you get down to it. The fighters today are bigger, stronger, and sometimes faster. Does that mean they can throw straight, textbook punches? Keep in mind, I'm not referencing to Marciano but the overall cliche of today's fighters being better then yesterday's fighters. WRONG on all counts!!

Today's fighters are protected by business interests and the big money pay-off of a PPV extravaganza. But don’t try and convince me that they are "better" because they fight today, as opposed to yesterday.

Rocky's tenacious nature, awkward style and tremendous physical gifts would provide any opponent with a serious problem. Any fighter can be beat on any given day (boxing is a see-saw battle of wills and jigsaw esque style clashes), but Marciano's 49-0 (above all else) represents he came into every fight with the intentions to do everything in his very great power to come through the victor. He's too much man for Tyson, and this would be the ultimate factor.

Not only is your explanation wrong IMO, but it is terribly naive just to make the assumption that today's fighters are better.

I agree. These boxers of old fought their guts out for almost nothing but peanuts (in terms of money). These old-timers fought for success, for glory & for admiration from the fans. Fighters of today seem to have lost the passion because of the "easy money" they can make. Most of them would rather fight extremely boring to get a title shot and make some money instead of in older times fight an exciting style, maybe not get a title shot and maybe not make as much money but definitely giving the fans their worth.

Also, lowering the fights down to 12 rounds seperates the men from the boys in my opinion. Not taking anything away from Lennox Lewis, but the man had definite stamina problems and yet he can be considered one of the best heavyweights ever without all fassets of his game well-rounded.

In summary, today's boxers are fitter, bigger & stronger but they lack the glory-seeking, killer instinct of the older fighters such as Marciano or Azumah Nelson.

[Skydog]

Jesus, you make it seem like Tyson can't get hit by anthing. I'll post my thoughts on the fight in just a sec.

[Skydog]

Seeing a smaller opponent in front of him, Mike would be frothing at the mouth for a “wam-bam, thank you, sir” kind of knock-out. Once the leather started flying, however, Mike would realize most of his hooks were sailing over the Rock’s head. At 5’ 11”, Mike has very rarely faced an opponent that was shorter than himself, so this situation would require some adjustments. Given Rocky’s willingness to trade, it wouldn’t be long before Mike would be throwing that right to the body, right uppercut to the head combination, sending a spray of sweat from Rocky’s black locks as the on-looking crowd Oooos and Owwws with every bone-jarring shot.

Tough as Rocky is, there is no way he could take this kind of brutal assault for fifteen rounds. Somewhere around the third or fourth, Mike would put together a four-punch combo and drop the Rock with a left hook that would send him sprawling backwards three or four feet. Surprisingly, the Italian would get up, cover himself a little better and survive the remainder of the round as most of Mike’s finishers catch arms and air. Not used to having an opponent come to him, Mike finds his punches being smothered pretty regularly by the crouching in-fighting Marciano, who is constantly pounding Mike’s ribcage and forearms, while most of Mike’s return volley ricochet off the Rock’s shoulders.

Occasionally, Mike will catch Rocky with a good one and the crowd responds, holding their breath for the inevitable; but it doesn’t come. As the fight rages on, Mike’s staccato bursts are fewer and fewer in number as he settles for throwing one or two punches at a time while Marciano labors on in a blue collar-style, catching Mike on the chin more and more as the head-movement becomes all but absent. Finally, somewhere around the 13th, Marciano catches Mike in the ribs with a brutal left hook, sending the bigger man to one knee. Rising at the count of eight, Mike is gasping for air like a fish on a sandbar. Smelling blood, Rocky wades in amidst desperation shots and drops Mike again with a volley of body blows, uppercuts, and overhand rights. Knowing he’s done, the referee rescues Mike from further punishment with thirty seconds to go in the round.

[THE REAL NINJA]

Tyson by tko Cuts or just plain ktfo around 7 ..and as far as tyson never had a hard fought fight with a power puncher watch tyson vs ruddock 1 n 2 a few times ...and the ass beating he took from buster n lewis ...you must have some heart to stad in a ring and get beat to hell like he did ...no his heart is not in the same class as holy n rock but he had some or he would have never been champ