Tyson was no more robbed against Douglas than Lewis was against McCall

[Trenchant]

The lack of preparation is very valid, you can just look at Tyson in that fight and see that he is not 100% in physical form, he is not excited about the fight at all, he's just going through the motions and he definitely underestimated douglas. He's lost the head movement and there is no pep in his legs for darting inside and getting set fast.
Lewis, I've got nothing against Lewis, he has alot of heart, he's a great fighter, but he would have been stopped if the ref let it go there. And McCall is way faster and more accurate than Shavers. McCall would have caught him again and even through Lewis's guard he would have been down again shortly.
Tyson's loss was from an accumulation of mega punishment, Douglas fought a great fight, if Tyson was more prepared and up for the fight Douglas would not have stopped him or even knocked him down. A physically prepared Tyson would be quicker and if he's up for the fight he'd have been more creative with combos and quicker on his feet, he was not ready like he needed to be.

[-CANE-]

The lack of preparation is very valid, you can just look at Tyson in that fight and see that he is not 100% in physical form, he is not excited about the fight at all, he's just going through the motions and he definitely underestimated douglas. He's lost the head movement and there is no pep in his legs for darting inside and getting set fast.
Lewis, I've got nothing against Lewis, he has alot of heart, he's a great fighter, but he would have been stopped if the ref let it go there. And McCall is way faster and more accurate than Shavers. McCall would have caught him again and even through Lewis's guard he would have been down again shortly.
Tyson's loss was from an accumulation of mega punishment, Douglas fought a great fight, if Tyson was more prepared and up for the fight Douglas would not have stopped him or even knocked him down. A physically prepared Tyson would be quicker and if he's up for the fight he'd have been more creative with combos and quicker on his feet, he was not ready like he needed to be.

The point is he should of been ready. People were paying good money too see their hero. The least he could do was be in shape and the same goes for any other fighter out there.

If you say that's a valid excuse then I could easily say had Lewis been trained by Steward from the start of his career then Lewis would of been a much better fighter and would never have been caught like that.

[Flab]

[sonnyboyx2]

The point is he should of been ready. People were paying good money too see their hero. The least he could do was be in shape and the same goes for any other fighter out there.

If you say that's a valid excuse then I could easily say had Lewis been trained by Steward from the start of his career then Lewis would of been a much better fighter and would never have been caught like that.

we could then say, Well if Tyson was trained by Ray Arcel he would still be champion today.. ha ha

[-CANE-]

we could then say, Well if Tyson was trained by Ray Arcel he would still be champion today.. ha ha

Exactly, the dog would of caught the rabbit if he hadn't of stopped for a Shit.

[QueensburyRules]

I'm sure you'll find it was Page that knocked him down in sparring before the Douglas fight.

- - Which was a clue of how off the Prozac saturated Mike was going into Buster.

Watch the fight!

Tyson was a zombie not that I expect Cane to make a comeback...

[JAB5239]

- - Which was a clue of how off the Prozac saturated Mike was going into Buster.

Watch the fight!

Tyson was a zombie not that I expect Cane to make a comeback...

Prozac didn't make him neglect training and get with a bunch of hookers the night before the fight. Could it be he wasn't himself because he was up partying all night? These are things he has admitted to, no?

Ps-this thread is so 2010!!

[markusmod]

I actually never bought into the controversy in that fight.

[YGriffith]

It wasn't just a lucky shot that beat Tyson, he was getting pummeled and outboxed throughout the whole fight.

[QueensburyRules]

I actually never bought into the controversy in that fight.

- - The controversy was the Dempsey Long Count Buster got. Another was Tyson's new trainer and team that DKing appointed seemed to have been drafted out of public bathroom, not having even the expertise of an amateur team.

The boxing media leadup was Mike fighting an easy blowout in Tokyo, because boxing, think Loony Teddy, they love to lie about fighters like Buster who was cursed with a prediabetic condition making him overweight. Thus a "quitter" in the Tucker bout where Buster went toe to toe vs Tucker in a great heavy fight until Buster was finally TKOed by the ref, hence the 50-1 odds because Buster was a "quitter."

The wider press documented numerous problems in camp with McCall and Page handling him like a kid with the backdrop him being on dangerous experimental psychotropic drugs after a documented suicide attempt in between his violent outbursts while dealing with Givens and her mother.

In spite of all his problems culminating in a zombie performance vs Buster, he reached way back into the soul of his being to KO Buster. The fight was over until it wasn't. Extended by the ref who in the tradition of a horrid number of refs in history, he completely botched this fight as bad as Tyson's new team did with an orchestrated no rematch arranged by King who was maneuvering to get his hands on Tyson's $50 mil retirement portfolio set up by Jimmy Jacobs and Cayton.