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Tyson was no more robbed against Douglas than Lewis was against McCall

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  • #11
    Well many like Don King made the excuse that Tyson had already knocked out Douglas with that upper cut in the end of Rd 8 or 9? They claim that the ref counted slow and Douglas didn't beat the count. It was interesting to note that Douglas was lucky there was no more time in the rd as Tyson would have finished him if he did.

    Douglas victory just was one of those cinderella nights where things happened in his favor. People can make excuses about the slow count or that Tyson's corner didn't take care of his eye, but it didn't change one of the biggest upsets in sports history.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
      Holmes vs Shavers was nothing like Lewis vs McCall.. Holmes was up almost immediately and was not falling around on unsteady legs like Lewis was.. these excuses for Lewis getting bombed-out by a mediocre journeyman are hilarious
      Holmes was KD'ed really hard against both Shavers and Snipes. Against both he showed his incredible recuperative powers.

      Against Shavers, Holmes take a full blooded right from a superpuncher here at (4.50):






      Against Snipes Holmes is falling around at the start but incredibly seems to have regained most of his senses at the count of 8 (3.05):





      Whereas Lewis looked completely unsteady as the referee finished the count showing much less powers of recovery than Holmes (but then who wouldn't?):

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      • #13
        Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
        Holmes vs Shavers was nothing like Lewis vs McCall.. Holmes was up almost immediately and was not falling around on unsteady legs like Lewis was.. these excuses for Lewis getting bombed-out by a mediocre journeyman are hilarious
        Then you are clearly blind and completely ignorant. I wasn't making an excuse for Lewis and I even said that the most likely outcome would of been a McCall victory. So stop twisting my words and re-watch the Shavers fight you fool. Holmes was wobbly after he got up, even after the fight was re-started he looked a gonner.


        As for all you fools laughing at Lewis getting ko'd by mediocre journeyman just think about what heavyweight boxing champion got knocked out by the biggest underdog in heavyweight history. Think the journeyman was a 42-1 underdog, so how mediocre did that make him.
        Last edited by -CANE-; 08-11-2010, 06:48 PM.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by -CANE- View Post
          As for all you fools laughing at Lewis getting ko'd by mediocre journeyman just think about what heavyweight boxing champion got knocked out by the biggest underdog in heavyweight history. Think the journeyman was a 42-1 underdog, so how mediocre did that make him.
          The 42-1 odds were more to do with just how great Mike Tyson was not how bad Douglous was.

          Douglous beat Mccall, and Mccall was Tysons sparring partner. Tyson was partying hard, Lewis had no such distractions. Also Tyson survived much longer in the fight and with a different ref Tyson would have won the fight by KO.

          Lewis's loss is a lot worse than Tysons.

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          • #15
            All these people calling Oliver a bum yet no one in the history of the sport has even been able to wobble him.

            Mccall KD'd Tyson through head gear and predicted Buster would upset him in 1990. Mccall is stronger than everybody on Dempseys resume' and would destroy all of those 195 lb bastards in 1 round.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by JoeyZagz View Post
              All these people calling Oliver a bum yet no one in the history of the sport has even been able to wobble him.

              Mccall KD'd Tyson through head gear and predicted Buster would upset him in 1990. Mccall is stronger than everybody on Dempseys resume' and would destroy all of those 195 lb bastards in 1 round.
              I'm sure you'll find it was Page that knocked him down in sparring before the Douglas fight.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by -CANE- View Post
                So all you Tyson nuthuggers get over it. I'm sick and tired of hearing the same lame old excuses.

                If Tyson really was as great as you think then he would of proved it. Tyson was an idiot and so was his team.

                Lewis was never given the chance to comeback against McCall, he wasn't knocked out like everyone claims, he was stopped on his feet.

                I don't ***** about it being a Lewis fan, and no one tried to reverse the result afterwards. Lewis proved it the hard way, came back and proved all his doubters wrong.

                Tyson got beat plain and simple by the better man on the night, just as Lennox Lewis got beat by the better man on the night.

                End Of.
                This is true. As was the case in the Dempsey - Tunney fight, Buster was aware and was ready to stand and had the ref started counting a second or two earlier, Buster would have still made the count as he was not dazed and was aware of where the count was and stood up before the count of 10.

                Buster kicked the **** out of Tyson that night and TBH I'm surprised that Buster got caught with that shot that put him down as Tyson was exhausted and had taken an insane amount of punishment.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Morales_ View Post
                  The 42-1 odds were more to do with just how great Mike Tyson was not how bad Douglous was.

                  Douglous beat Mccall, and Mccall was Tysons sparring partner. Tyson was partying hard, Lewis had no such distractions. Also Tyson survived much longer in the fight and with a different ref Tyson would have won the fight by KO.

                  Lewis's loss is a lot worse than Tysons.
                  It was to do with both, Tyson only seemed superhuman because everyone else was so awful. Go and read the view of boxing writers from the magazines at the time.

                  LOL @ Lewis' loss was worse, he got stopped on his feet by a bum and then went on to win another two titles and unified and retired as champ having beat everyone he ever faced. 3 time champ and only Ali,Louis and Holmes made more defenses. That loss really damaged his career didn't it.

                  I'm sure I haven't got to explain to you what happened to Tyson after he got robbed. That loss didn't hurt as much as Lewis', pull the other one it finished him completely as a fighter. He was never high on confidence even as champion and Douglas took what little he did have that night and he never got it back.

                  Tysons loss is much worse.

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                  • #19
                    Whoever says he was robbed? Nobody ever complains about that slow count bullshit. People who defend Tyson's loss to Buster usually just talk about his lack of preparation.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by MurderDeathKill View Post
                      Whoever says he was robbed? Nobody ever complains about that slow count bullshit. People who defend Tyson's loss to Buster usually just talk about his lack of preparation.

                      Quite a few on here do, even lack of preparation is bull****. Tyson neglected training as did Lewis against Rahman and they both deserved what they got.

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