Lennox Lewis A Top 10 ATG Heavyweight...Really?

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    #131
    Originally posted by GJC
    Him against Tyson and Holyfield maybe even Bowe and Lewis would have been interesting.
    At the time I had him pegged as the guy who would take Tyson's "0".

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      #132
      Originally posted by poet682006
      At the time I had him pegged as the guy who would take Tyson's "0".

      Poet
      I could only see him or Holyfield (then moving up from cruiser) troubling Tyson although I went off Holyfield beating Tyson after seeing him against Foreman and Holmes.
      We ought to do a poll sometime on which fighter Don King screwed the most.

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        #133
        Originally posted by GJC
        We ought to do a poll sometime on which fighter Don King screwed the most.
        The possibilities are endless :hahahaha9:

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          #134
          Originally posted by poet682006
          Greg Page: Prior to 1984 the only fighter of real note he had beaten was James Tillis. Then in '84 through '85 lost 3 out of 4 fights to disqualify himself from any title shot.

          Michael Dokes: Didn't rise to prominence until '82-'83 when he beat Mike Weaver twice.....then got KOed in his next fight to kill his chances of a shot at Holmes.

          Pinklon Thomas: Wasn't a real contender until '84-'85 when Holmes was having his fights with Spinks then retiring. He peaked after Holmes was on the way out.

          John Tate: Only claim to fame was beating Coetzee in '79.....then was brutally KOed in his next 2 fights and fell to journeyman status. A flash in the pan.

          Gerrie Coetzee: A South African never-was whose only victory of note during the period in question was a win over an out-of-shape Michael Dokes and had already lost to Weaver, Snipes, and Tate. Please.....doesn't even deserve to be labled a "contender".

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          You downgrading fighters who Larry Holmes ducked doesn't make him look any better.Holmes ducked them and there's no way of defending him on it.Don't tell me that Marvis frazier,Lucien Rodriguez,Randall Cobb,Scott Frank,Leroy Jones,Lorenzo Zannon,Alfredo Evangelista were better,because they weren't.




          Page was Holmes mandatory and Holmes rejected $2.5 million in favour of ducking Page.for a man who claims that he was all about the money: that's a duck.



          If Ali and Louis had taken the Larry Holmes route in taking the easiest options possible then nobody would have been calling them great.

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            #135
            Originally posted by prinzemanspopa
            You downgrading fighters who Larry Holmes ducked doesn't make him look any better.Holmes ducked them and there's no way of defending him on it.Don't tell me that Marvis frazier,Lucien Rodriguez,Randall Cobb,Scott Frank,Leroy Jones,Lorenzo Zannon,Alfredo Evangelista were better,because they weren't.

            Page was Holmes mandatory and Holmes rejected $2.5 million in favour of ducking Page.for a man who claims that he was all about the money: that's a duck.

            If Ali and Louis had taken the Larry Holmes route in taking the easiest options possible then nobody would have been calling them great.
            According to the rules of logic, gratuetous assertions such as you fill your posts with may be equally gratuetously denied. Just because YOU claim it doesn't make it fact.....in fact, the fact that it's YOU who's making the claims is sufficient evidence to safely declare those assertions as being bogus and without foundation. :bull****9:

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              #136
              Originally posted by prinzemanspopa
              Page was Holmes mandatory and Holmes rejected $2.5 million in favour of ducking Page.for a man who claims that he was all about the money: that's a duck.
              As I recall Holmes rejected it to get away from King, no? That wouild have been all about the money. When Don King offers you $2.5 million you are lucky to end up with $50,000

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                #137
                Originally posted by poet682006
                At the time I had him pegged as the guy who would take Tyson's "0".

                Poet

                I've said the same thing on many occasions on this site about Witherspoon. For me he was the one who could seriously given Tyson problems.

                To this day I'll never be able to fathom why he threw that fight against bonehugger.

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by GJC
                  As I recall Holmes rejected it to get away from King, no? That wouild have been all about the money. When Don King offers you $2.5 million you are lucky to end up with $50,000


                  Not as far as I know,mate.He never said as much,only claiming that $2.5 million wasn't enough and that he wanted more.He also said he'd only fight Coetzee for a $100 million.Page had been the mandatory contender for some time before the wbc eventually did strip Holmes of the title.



                  Originally posted by GJC
                  You'll find with Poop that if he doesn't like a fighter, and I'm struggling to think of one he does like,



                  Regardless of the harsh criticism that I have reserved for certain fighters,I am a fan of the sport of boxing and therfore I do rate many fighters of the past and of today.
                  Last edited by prinzemanspopa; 08-15-2010, 09:00 AM.

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                    #139
                    Originally posted by prinzemanspopa
                    Not as far as I know,mate.He never said as much,only claiming that $2.5 million wasn't enough and that he wanted more.He also said he'd only fight Coetzee for a $100 million.Page had been the mandatory contender for some time before the wbc eventually did strip Holmes of the title.
                    First off, you're nobody's mate.....except for maybe a blow-up doll or the odd sheep here and there.


                    Originally posted by prinzemanspopa
                    Regardless of the harsh criticism that I have reserved for certain fighters,I am a fan of the sport of boxing and therfore I do rate many fighters of the past and of today.
                    Yeah, you rate class-c fighters like Mac Foster and Gerrie Coetzee :rofl9:

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                      #140
                      Originally posted by poet682006
                      First off, you're nobody's mate.....except for maybe a blow-up doll or the odd sheep here and there.


                      There is such a thing as courtesy.Obviously such a term is lost to an American such as yourself.



                      Originally posted by poet682006
                      Yeah, you rate class-c fighters like Mac Foster and Gerrie Coetzee :rofl9:

                      Poet



                      The former,who punched hard enough to rule out the possibility of ever landing a fight with the suspect chinned Joe Frazier.

                      The latter being perceived as a great enough threat for Larry Holmes to make ridiculous purse demands,thus ruling himself out of fight in which he would have made quite possibly the greatest purse of his entire career.




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                      Last edited by prinzemanspopa; 08-15-2010, 11:46 AM.

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