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  • Originally posted by -IronMike- View Post
    In your opinion who was Holmes best 4 opponents? I also heard that Holmes could go through Ali's resume undefeated, do you agree with that statement?
    I doubt it.....I can't see him fighting Liston x2, Frazier x3, Patterson x2, Norton x3, and Foreman without picking up a loss or two somewhere.....no shame to Holmes as I can't see ANYONE going undefeated through that lineup.

    Holmes 4 best?

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    Norton
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    • Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
      I mean seriously.....Coetzee was a joke: Francois Botha with even less ability :hahahaha9:

      Poet
      You are talking about Frank Bruno's landmark fight there
      The fact that he spent the afternoon of the fight shopping at Harrods did me me suspect we wasn't going to get our moneys worth there!

      Also with Coetzee v Holmes you can't overlook the whole South Africa/apertheid thing I remember Tate getting a lot of stick for fighting over there.
      As for Tate I remember Noel Quarless beating him, ok he was past prime but I was 50 then and I would have fancied my chances against Quarless

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      • Originally posted by GJC View Post
        You are talking about Frank Bruno's landmark fight there
        The fact that he spent the afternoon of the fight shopping at Harrods did me me suspect we wasn't going to get our moneys worth there!

        Also with Coetzee v Holmes you can't overlook the whole South Africa/apertheid thing I remember Tate getting a lot of stick for fighting over there.
        As for Tate I remember Noel Quarless beating him, ok he was past prime but I was 50 then and I would have fancied my chances against Quarless
        If it wasn't for the fact that he was from South Africa I'd be calling Coetzee just another Euro-Fraud

        Poet

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        • Originally posted by -IronMike- View Post
          Yeah, Poet did the work for me
          You'll find with Poop that if he doesn't like a fighter, and I'm struggling to think of one he does like, he counts it as ducking if they don't fight every fighter who was roughly their weight and between the ages of 14 and 60 during their reign. Even if it meant they would have had to fight 3 times a week and often for free.

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          • Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
            I doubt it.....I can't see him fighting Liston x2, Frazier x3, Patterson x2, Norton x3, and Foreman without picking up a loss or two somewhere.....no shame to Holmes as I can't see ANYONE going undefeated through that lineup.
            I think he loses to Liston, beats Patterson and has some loses against the others as well
            Originally posted by poet682006 View Post

            Holmes 4 best?

            Weaver
            Norton
            Shavers
            Cooney
            Thanks for this

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            • Originally posted by GJC View Post
              You'll find with Poop that if he doesn't like a fighter, and I'm struggling to think of one he does like, he counts it as ducking if they don't fight every fighter who was roughly their weight and between the ages of 14 and 60 during their reign. Even if it meant they would have had to fight 3 times a week and often for free.
              The only people I've seen him give praise to is Michael Spinks, Evander Holyfield and Mac Foster, while I've been here anyway.

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              • Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
                If it wasn't for the fact that he was from South Africa I'd be calling Coetzee just another Euro-Fraud

                Poet
                Be interesting to see how he did these days. He'd be very popular amongst some for sure

                He falls into the category for me of people saying "Yeah but he has a punch"
                Ok he's 200lbs and if you let him hit you squarly on the jaw he'll wobble you, I'm 71 but I know where to hit you and how so if you stick your chin out I'm pretty sure it will sting a bit, wheres my title shot!

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                • Originally posted by -IronMike- View Post
                  I think he loses to Liston, beats Patterson and has some loses against the others as well

                  Thanks for this
                  He has some other fights in his prime against good opponents but those are the top 4 I think. Witherspoon would go to the top of the list if it wasn't for the fact he was so green for his fight with Holmes.

                  Poet

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                  • Originally posted by GJC View Post
                    You'll find with Poop that if he doesn't like a fighter, and I'm struggling to think of one he does like,.
                    I think he likes: Jones, Tyson and Holyfield
                    Originally posted by GJC View Post
                    he counts it as ducking if they don't fight every fighter who was roughly their weight and between the ages of 14 and 60 during their reign. Even if it meant they would have had to fight 3 times a week and often for free.
                    lol, that seems to be the criteria applied to a lot of ex fighters these days

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                    • Originally posted by NChristo View Post
                      The only people I've seen him give praise to is Michael Spinks, Evander Holyfield and Mac Foster, while I've been here anyway.
                      He accuses Joe Frazier of avoiding Mac Foster, which could be a reason why he praises him. He probably likes the fighters that gave Joe trouble or ones that Joe ducked. (according to him)

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