Lennox Lewis A Top 10 ATG Heavyweight...Really?

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  • prinzemanspopa
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    #101
    Originally posted by -IronMike-
    Who did he avoid and what is your proof?


    Pinklon Thomas,Michael Dokes,John Tate,Gerrie Coetzee and Greg Page:All superior to the unheralded,sometimes even unranked contenders that old Lar enjoyed giving/handing title opportunities to.



    Pinklon Thomas - title holder: Ducked
    John Tate - title holder: Ducked
    Gerrie Coetzee - title holder: Ducked
    Greg Page - mandatory and title holder: Ducked
    Michael Dokes - title holder: Ducked



    He'd later sign to to fight Tate,although Tate was nowhere near as highly regarded as he had been when he did win the title.
    Last edited by prinzemanspopa; 08-14-2010, 11:14 AM.

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    • Toney616
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      #102
      Originally posted by prinzemanspopa
      Pinklon Thomas,Michael Dokes,John Tate,Gerrie Coetzee and Greg Page:All superior to the unheralded,sometimes even unranked contenders that old Lar enjoyed giving/handing title opportunities to.



      Pinklon Thomas - title holder: Ducked
      John Tate - title holder: Ducked
      Gerrie Coetzee - title holder: Ducked
      Greg Page - mandatory and title holder: Ducked
      Michael Dokes - title holder: Ducked



      He'd later sign to to fight Tate,although Tate was nowhere near as highly regarded as he had been when he did win the title.
      Thanks for answering my question

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        #103
        Originally posted by prinzemanspopa
        Pinklon Thomas - title holder: Ducked
        John Tate - title holder: Ducked
        Gerrie Coetzee - title holder: Ducked
        Greg Page - mandatory and title holder: Ducked
        Michael Dokes - title holder: Ducked

        Greg Page: Prior to 1984 the only fighter of real note he had beaten was James Tillis. Then in '84 through '85 lost 3 out of 4 fights to disqualify himself from any title shot.

        Michael Dokes: Didn't rise to prominence until '82-'83 when he beat Mike Weaver twice.....then got KOed in his next fight to kill his chances of a shot at Holmes.

        Pinklon Thomas: Wasn't a real contender until '84-'85 when Holmes was having his fights with Spinks then retiring. He peaked after Holmes was on the way out.

        John Tate: Only claim to fame was beating Coetzee in '79.....then was brutally KOed in his next 2 fights and fell to journeyman status. A flash in the pan.

        Gerrie Coetzee: A South African never-was whose only victory of note during the period in question was a win over an out-of-shape Michael Dokes and had already lost to Weaver, Snipes, and Tate. Please.....doesn't even deserve to be labled a "contender".

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        • GJC
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          #104
          Originally posted by -IronMike-
          Thanks for answering my question
          Well not really, all the fighters named preferred to fight it out for the lesser regarded WBA title than challenge Holmes.
          As for them being a title holders and Holmes unifying none of the fighters named could hold onto the WBA title for longer than a week making it a moot point really.

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            #105
            Originally posted by poet682006
            Greg Page: Prior to 1984 the only fighter of real note he had beaten was James Tillis. Then in '84 through '85 lost 3 out of 4 fights to disqualify himself from any title shot.

            Michael Dokes: Didn't rise to prominence until '82-'83 when he beat Mike Weaver twice.....then got KOed in his next fight to kill his chances of a shot at Holmes.

            Pinklon Thomas: Wasn't a real contender until '84-'85 when Holmes was having his fights with Spinks then retiring. He peaked after Holmes was on the way out.

            John Tate: Only claim to fame was beating Coetzee in '79.....then was brutally KOed in his next 2 fights and fell to journeyman status. A flash in the pan.

            Gerrie Coetzee: A South African never-was whose only victory of note during the period in question was a win over an out-of-shape Michael Dokes and had already lost to Weaver, Snipes, and Tate. Please.....doesn't even deserve to be labled a "contender".

            Poet
            Or if you want a more detailed rebuttal.............

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            • Toney616
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              #106
              Originally posted by GJC
              Well not really, all the fighters named preferred to fight it out for the lesser regarded WBA title than challenge Holmes.
              As for them being a title holders and Holmes unifying none of the fighters named could hold onto the WBA title for longer than a week making it a moot point really.
              I meant thanks as in him getting back to me, I was still planning on checking it out myself.

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                #107
                Originally posted by GJC
                Or if you want a more detailed rebuttal.............
                I mean seriously.....Coetzee was a joke: Francois Botha with even less ability :hahahaha9:

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by GJC
                  Or if you want a more detailed rebuttal.............
                  Yeah, Poet did the work for me

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                  • Toney616
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by poet682006
                    I mean seriously.....Coetzee was a joke: Francois Botha with even less ability :hahahaha9:

                    Poet
                    In your opinion who was Holmes best 4 opponents? I also heard that Holmes could go through Ali's resume undefeated, do you agree with that statement?

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                    • Toney616
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by poet682006
                      Greg Page: Prior to 1984 the only fighter of real note he had beaten was James Tillis. Then in '84 through '85 lost 3 out of 4 fights to disqualify himself from any title shot.

                      Michael Dokes: Didn't rise to prominence until '82-'83 when he beat Mike Weaver twice.....then got KOed in his next fight to kill his chances of a shot at Holmes.

                      Pinklon Thomas: Wasn't a real contender until '84-'85 when Holmes was having his fights with Spinks then retiring. He peaked after Holmes was on the way out.

                      John Tate: Only claim to fame was beating Coetzee in '79.....then was brutally KOed in his next 2 fights and fell to journeyman status. A flash in the pan.

                      Gerrie Coetzee: A South African never-was whose only victory of note during the period in question was a win over an out-of-shape Michael Dokes and had already lost to Weaver, Snipes, and Tate. Please.....doesn't even deserve to be labled a "contender".

                      Poet
                      Thanks for this

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