My Top Ten Greatest Heavyweight Champs Of All Time!

[The Iron Man]

Yeh very true!! After prison he ran his mouth before the fight to intimidate. With Rooney, he said the odd thing or two after the fight, but your right in that respect

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

He was actually running his mouth rapidly when he took the Don King bum team. After prison he calmed down a bit.

After prison he calmed down a bit!!!??? If anyones thoughts are laughable it's yours. You have Tyson on your avatar but you don't know **** about him.

[BKM-]

After prison he calmed down a bit!!!??? If anyones thoughts are laughable it's yours. You have Tyson on your avatar but you don't know **** about him.

Hello there tough guy. I thought you said "I don't take forum things seriously"? Now here you are acting like a cheerleader on crack questioning me.
Trust me on this son, I've been discussing Tyson here long before you did, long before you were a fan of his. So i've been around in that department. You on the other hand have been goofing around and being laughed at as a result. You're known as a product of Tyson nuthuggers, I have overcome that as a Tyson fan. I've earned my respect here, you did not. So you are in no position to tell me I 'don't know **** about Tyson'. Now lets educate you.

Tyson has had diffirent era's. There is one where he is with his Catskills team as a polite young man trying to be the best in the world while doing his talking in the ring.
Then we have the Tyson that took Don King's team, became an arrogant brat with redicilous comments outside of the ring, his in ring performances sometimes lacking.
This is known as the trashtalking, or in your case ****talking Tyson.
Then we fast forward after his time in prison, and we have a wiser man converted to Islam doing everything he can to make a positive image on himself. Not dissrespecting his opponents or the sport itself outside or inside the ring.
Now, that was a short era, but it is in fact true that Tyson calmed down AFTER prison. When things went wrong again because of him, or like you would say: Things became **** again, is when Mike bit Evander Holyfield's ears. After that, his boxing licence was revoked and he started getting in trouble again.
That is the era when Mike Tyson starts to become known as a monster basicely, as he was trashtalking, trying to break people's arms, doing everything he can to hype fights up.
I never claimed Tyson calmed down forever after prison. But there was a short time where he had the class again.

Some people(young people like yourself for example) might not get it because they're still ignorant tyson nuthuggers with the potential to become wiser. They interpret statements wrong and become defensive and upset as a result. But you should always try to educate them. Some of them turn out great.

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

Hello there tough guy. I thought you said "I don't take forum things seriously"? Now here you are acting like a cheerleader on crack questioning me.
Trust me on this son, I've been discussing Tyson here long before you did, long before you were a fan of his. So i've been around in that department. You on the other hand have been goofing around and being laughed at as a result. You're known as a product of Tyson nuthuggers, I have overcome that as a Tyson fan. I've earned my respect here, you did not. So you are in no position to tell me I 'don't know **** about Tyson'. Now lets educate you.

Tyson has had diffirent era's. There is one where he is with his Catskills team as a polite young man trying to be the best in the world while doing his talking in the ring.
Then we have the Tyson that took Don King's team, became an arrogant brat with redicilous comments outside of the ring, his in ring performances sometimes lacking.
This is known as the trashtalking, or in your case ****talking Tyson.
Then we fast forward after his time in prison, and we have a wiser man converted to Islam doing everything he can to make a positive image on himself. Not dissrespecting his opponents or the sport itself outside or inside the ring.
Now, that was a short era, but it is in fact true that Tyson calmed down AFTER prison. When things went wrong again because of him, or like you would say: Things became **** again, is when Mike bit Evander Holyfield's ears. After that, his boxing licence was revoked and he started getting in trouble again.
That is the era when Mike Tyson starts to become known as a monster basicely, as he was trashtalking, trying to break people's arms, doing everything he can to hype fights up.
I never claimed Tyson calmed down forever after prison. But there was a short time where he had the class again.

Some people(young people like yourself for example) might not get it because they're still ignorant tyson nuthuggers with the potential to become wiser. They interpret statements wrong and become defensive and upset as a result. But you should always try to educate them. Some of them turn out great.

Saying Tyson calmed down after prison doesn't imply he started back up after the Holyfield fight. But I'll forgive you. lol

[butterfly1964]

For someone who is supposedly full of Ali 'knowledge' you totally underestimate one of the greatest tools in his arsenal. Go and read of the accounts of the Ali/Liston fight and all the things the happened during the buildup to the fight. Ali achieved two of objectives -

One he totally got into Sonny Liston's head and make Sonny want to absolutely kill him. Sonny wasn't focused on boxing Ali, he wanted to tear his head off.

Two, Sonny Liston actually thought Ali was crazy because of all of his antics. This placed a huge doubt in Liston's frame of mind.

Plus, you have to take into effect Ali's constant trash talking in the ring. Tyson would be defeated before the bell rang because he would be focused on trying to murder Ali. Mike Tyson would be supremely exposed to this kind of tactic because, to put it mildly, he is a mental and emotional midget in alot of aspects.

Well, if you have as much Ali knowledge as you think you do then you would know about that little incident in a Miami Beach Casino in which Clay was giving Liston a hard time to which Sonny walked up to Clay and smacked him hard in the face. Suprised, Clay asked why he did that, to which Liston replied, "'Cause you're too ****ing fresh!" Then Liston walked away and said to one of his friends, "That's it, I got the kid's heart." I'm pretty sure at fight time Liston was cool, calm, and collective, but he was out of shape and was just overshadowed by the skills of Cassius Clay. Pre-fight mind games had nothing to do with it.

[Hawkins]

Well, if you have as much Ali knowledge as you think you do then you would know about that little incident in a Miami Beach Casino in which Clay was giving Liston a hard time to which Sonny walked up to Clay and smacked him hard in the face. Surprised, Clay asked why he did that, to which Liston replied, "'Cause you're too ****ing fresh!" Then Liston walked away and said to one of his friends, "That's it, I got the kid's heart." I'm pretty sure at fight time Liston was cool, calm, and collective, but he was out of shape and was just overshadowed by the skills of Cassius Clay. Pre-fight mind games had nothing to do with it.

Pre-fight mind games had everything to do with it. Why did Liston get angered enough to slap him? Because Clay/Ali was continually antagonizing him. Liston truly thought he was crazy. I'm sure Liston thought who in their sane mind would follow him around and prod him like that?

When the fight started Liston almost ran from his corner in an attempt to take Clay/Ali's head off. He had successfully gotten under Sonny's skin and in his head.

[butterfly1964]

Pre-fight mind games had everything to do with it. Why did Liston get angered enough to slap him? Because Clay/Ali was continually antagonizing him. Liston truly thought he was crazy. I'm sure Liston thought who in their sane mind would follow him around and prod him like that?

When the fight started Liston almost ran from his corner in an attempt to take Clay/Ali's head off. He had successfully gotten under Sonny's skin and in his head.

But when Clay did nothing back, that is when Liston thought he had it in the bag, phychologically. I think people make too big a deal of pre-fight buildup and getting into soemone's head. Usually the outcame of a fight is simply because of the imposement of fighting ability, plain and simple.

[The Iron Man]

About Tyson calming down after prison :

This is true and untrue at the same time lol. After prision he ran his mouth alot, the Whole i wanna eat your children speech was after prison. So was the brawl with lewis and the Saverese thing were he wouldt stop hitting. But he started to calm down after the lewis fight, was alot more respectful of the fighters. In truth he was always respectful, after the fight towards the fighter.

[them_apples]

About Tyson calming down after prison :

This is true and untrue at the same time lol. After prision he ran his mouth alot, the Whole i wanna eat your children speech was after prison. So was the brawl with lewis and the Saverese thing were he wouldt stop hitting. But he started to calm down after the lewis fight, was alot more respectful of the fighters. In truth he was always respectful, after the fight towards the fighter.

I think Yaman is talking about a short period right after prison, probably to prove to the public he wasn't a monster..seeing as the media made sure that wouldn't work, he reverted back to being a monster.

I guess the Tyson vs Mcneely could be considered that time, Tyson did seem to collect himself in that fight.

[Razzaq]

Great.... that's a nice top ten list