My Top Ten Greatest Heavyweight Champs Of All Time!

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  • ROSS CALIFORNIA
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    #591
    Originally posted by Hawkins
    Well I made the comparison because Liston, and you could argue a case for Foreman too, were fighters similar to Tyson in that they relied heavily on their intimidation. Plus, I think Liston and Foreman were mentally stronger than Mike. Frazier is a whole different ballgame, he may fight similar to Tyson but otherwise they are on a different level.

    I made the comparison because Ali would likely use his mindgames to manipulate Tyson. He would get in his head and put Tyson in the frame of mind to murder Ali, letting his anger get the better of him. Tyson always fought with this sort of controlled fury, I just think Ali would turn the tables.

    Plus factor in all the things he would be saying to Tyson in the ring. I truly think it would go down like a Foreman or Liston fight with Ali totally breaking Tyson's will.
    Good points, I just don't agree that Tyson relied or really tried to intimidate fighters to the same degree that Foreman and Liston did. Sure he talked a his **** before the fights, but it was later in his career when he really started. The first Tyson was kind of a nice guy and he never really stared too many opponents down when they came face to face for the referees instructions. Not always but most of the time. I think fighters like Liston, Frazier, Tyson, and Foreman could intimidate because of their abilities more than anything else. Ali was very intimidating through his confidence, and stare downs, yet everyone still chased him around the ring because he wasn't known to be a devastating puncher.

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    • Hawkins
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      #592
      Originally posted by RossCA
      Good points, I just don't agree that Tyson relied or really tried to intimidate fighters to the same degree that Foreman and Liston did. Sure he talked a his **** before the fights, but it was later in his career when he really started. The first Tyson was kind of a nice guy and he never really stared too many opponents down when they came face to face for the referees instructions. Not always but most of the time. I think fighters like Liston, Frazier, Tyson, and Foreman could intimidate because of their abilities more than anything else. Ali was very intimidating through his confidence, and stare downs, yet everyone still chased him around the ring because he wasn't known to be a devastating puncher.
      Well no, Tyson didn't really try to intimidate guys by his words. It was his fighting style and the image they tried to cultivate that intimidated guys. Thats the angle I was approaching from. Liston and Foreman were never big talkers either but they intimidated many opponents by the way they carried themselves and the reputations they had birthed.

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      • ROSS CALIFORNIA
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        #593
        Originally posted by Hawkins
        Well no, Tyson didn't really try to intimidate guys by his words. It was his fighting style and the image they tried to cultivate that intimidated guys. Thats the angle I was approaching from. Liston and Foreman were never big talkers either but they intimidated many opponents by the way they carried themselves and the reputations they had birthed.
        Very true my humble master. (Disclaimer: That was meant to be funny not sarcastic. God, I hate disclaimers. lol)

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        • Hawkins
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          #594
          Originally posted by RossCA
          Very true my humble master. (Disclaimer: That was meant to be funny not sarcastic. God, I hate disclaimers. lol)


          well all live in a yellow submarine...a yellow submarine...a yellow submarine! LOL

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          • Mike Tyson77
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            #595
            I got "Iron" Mike Tyson #1..........................................

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            • tills9191
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              #596
              I used to think Tyson was the number 1 HW, but I'm thinking if Buster Douglas gave him trouble because of his good jab, and keeping him at bay, imagine what the other real HW's would have done .

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              • The Iron Man
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                #597
                I cant believe you said tyson didnt intimidate people by what he said..did u ever hear the guy speak to other fighters!

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                • Hawkins
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                  #598
                  Originally posted by The Iron Man
                  I cant believe you said tyson didnt intimidate people by what he said..did u ever hear the guy speak to other fighters!
                  He didn't really say anything in his hey day. After he got out of prison, well thats a different story.

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                  • BKM-
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                    #599
                    He was actually running his mouth rapidly when he took the Don King bum team. After prison he calmed down a bit.

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                    • Hawkins
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                      #600
                      Originally posted by Yaman
                      He was actually running his mouth rapidly when he took the Don King bum team. After prison he calmed down a bit.
                      Well, I was referencing the Cus/Rooney Tyson. The one that was actually respectful.

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