The best defensive fighters carry their hands low?

[GJC]

Been watching fights of Vicente Sadlivar recently and I've gotta say he was easily the best person I've ever seen at parrying.
He was amazing, seems to be a lost name now though.

Strangely I mentioned him in another thread only a day or so ago.
He was the obstacle that our Howard Winstone couldn't overcome, a forgotten classic trilogy those 2 had

[GJC]

Clearly someone I need to do a bit of research on

Poet

You should "get" Willie Pep first before you start moving onto Saldivar

[DondiNeverLeft]

I think Clottey is okk to watch its his mentality thats lets him down. I do find winky and abraham boring to watch though

I agree, it does have its limitations- I still havent watched Winky-Pwill yet. Im told winky just got overwhelmed and couldnt find the time to shoot counters

Whoever told you was right on. Pwill threw punches like crazy. The thing about the Shell is that in turtles the shell is there and its hands are still free. But in boxing if you shell up you have no offense. Pwill punches through alot of Winkys shell too.

[NChristo]

Strangely I mentioned him in another thread only a day or so ago.
He was the obstacle that our Howard Winstone couldn't overcome, a forgotten classic trilogy those 2 had

Yeah they're some great fights.

OT: You're from Wales ?, did you go to the convention ?, was thinking about going but things came up and I wasn't able too.

[louis54]

its easier to move your head and legs when the left hand is down abit. try it as opposed to both hands chin high.

[them_apples]

This is something I've been thinking about for a while, a lot of the top defensive minded fighters either carry their hands low or hold only one of their hands high.

Fighters like:
Walcott
Moore
Hopkins
Toney
Mayweather
Qawi
McCallum
Duran
Frazier

Do people here think that fighters who rely mainly on rolling and slipping punches are more effective defensively than fighters who rely primarily on blocking techniques?

I think it's more so that those guys are counter punchers. They drop their hands to get their oponent to throw..so they can make them miss and capitalize.

Hands up and a tight guard is almost always better.

Hardly any boxers keep both hands up high. Theres more to it than that. You need to be able to see the punches coming and be conscious of your body as well. Most fighter have them at that level and bring them up when they see a punch coming. You can obstruct your vision by bocking your own eyesite.

I know Tyson kept his hands up by his chin at all times, Joshua Clottey has a pretty high guard and even Marvin Hagler had a pretty tight guard as well.

The most defensive fighters though are the ones with good eyes. That see the punches coming. They are almost always counter punchers too though.

[Eric Holder]

Charley Burley's another great defensive fighter that had a rather low guard, I think most of the slick boxers perfer this style because rolling/slipping slightly allows them to effectively avoid getting hit while still being in position to counter whereas a high turtle shell type guard makes it difficult to transition from defense to offense.

Been watching fights of Vicente Sadlivar recently and I've gotta say he was easily the best person I've ever seen at parrying.
He was amazing, seems to be a lost name now though.

I've only seen a couple of his fights, but from what I've seen I agree watching him parry punches is pretty amazing

[SBleeder]

Don't know if he's been mentioned yet, but Benitez carried his hands at least as high as his chest and sometimes in front of his face.

[GJC]

Yeah they're some great fights.

OT: You're from Wales ?, did you go to the convention ?, was thinking about going but things came up and I wasn't able too.

No I'm a Londoner but you know the score when Scots Irish or Welsh win we call them British when they lose......

[BigStereotype]

Tell you what, I'm going to PM you my catalogue of fights that I have.

Poet

You think you could forward me that message?

I think Clottey is okk to watch its his mentality thats lets him down.

I really like Clottey just because he's very fundamentally sound, but I agree with you about his mentality. It might not even be that he's not a lion, I think he has some misconceptions about how rounds are scored. I know it's clean, effective punching, ring generalship and defense, but nobody actually scores defense. He doesn't seem to understand that.