The best defensive fighters carry their hands low?

[StarshipTrooper]

Been watching fights of Vicente Sadlivar recently and I've gotta say he was easily the best person I've ever seen at parrying.
He was amazing, seems to be a lost name now though.

Hell, even I'm only vaguely familar with him. I need to look him up.

Poet

[StarshipTrooper]

I have seen Toney do it (Toney-Barkley) and McCallum (during McCallum-Watson), but you are right it is one of the lost arts of boxing

Not really familiar with Holmes career (or his skill set) only seen: Smith I, Witherspoon, Spinks I and Spinks II

Watch Shavers I for a Holmes jabbing lesson. Shavers II is one of the most entertaining Heavyweight fights ever. Other good Holmes fights to watch: Norton, Cooney, Weaver I, Ocasio, and for an old Holmes the Mercer fight.

Poet

[Toney616]

Watch Shavers I for a Holmes jabbing lesson. Shavers II is one of the most entertaining Heavyweight fights ever. Other good Holmes fights to watch: Norton, Cooney, Weaver I, Ocasio, and for an old Holmes the Mercer fight.

Poet

Thanks for this, off to download Holmes Shavers II now

[NChristo]

Hell, even I'm only vaguely familar with him. I need to look him up.

Poet

Skill wise he's a top 3 southpaw with Hagler, Pea and Elorde coming 4th, imo anyway.

[StarshipTrooper]

Thanks for this, off to download Holmes Shavers II now

Tell you what, I'm going to PM you my catalogue of fights that I have.

Poet

[StarshipTrooper]

Skill wise he's a top 3 southpaw with Hagler, Pea and Elorde coming 4th, imo anyway.

Clearly someone I need to do a bit of research on

Poet

[Tiozzo]

This is something I've been thinking about for a while, a lot of the top defensive minded fighters either carry their hands low or hold only one of their hands high.

Fighters like:
Walcott
Moore
Hopkins
Toney
Mayweather
Qawi
McCallum
Duran
Frazier

Do people here think that fighters who rely mainly on rolling and slipping punches are more effective defensively than fighters who rely primarily on blocking techniques?

you forgot quite a few names in you list of defensive masters

I would say it is better to roll and slip because taking no punches at all on the arms is better than taking a whole lot on the gloves and arms to block

as someone else stated, a punch can always get through a tight blocking defense

if you roll and slip the right way, nothing will touch you/touch you solidly

[Toney616]

you forgot quite a few names in you list of defensive masters

They are the guys im most familiar with

I would say it is better to roll and slip because taking no punches at all on the arms is better than taking a whole lot on the gloves and arms to block

as someone else stated, a punch can always get through a tight blocking defense

if you roll and slip the right way, nothing will touch you/touch you solidly

Thanks for this, great points

[DondiNeverLeft]

which fighters do you have in mind?
P. Whitaker was one, Floyd is another.
What do you think of the turtle shell defense?

Boring IMO. But from a tactical aspect I think its OK at best. Winky and Clottey are two examples but honestly I dont believe it will get you to "greatness".

[Toney616]

Boring IMO.

I think Clottey is okk to watch its his mentality thats lets him down. I do find winky and abraham boring to watch though

But from a tactical aspect I think its OK at best. Winky and Clottey are two examples but honestly I dont believe it will get you to "greatness".

I agree, it does have its limitations- I still havent watched Winky-Pwill yet. Im told winky just got overwhelmed and couldnt find the time to shoot counters