The Magic Man's Top 10 P4P ATG of ALL TIME

[BigStereotype]

the most hilarious part is Joe Calzaghe.

The most hilarious part is his list. And his condescension. That's pretty funny too.

[Joeyzagz]

You clearly have never boxed, thats an illegal shot, first Lewis was headbutting and then with his arm wrapped around his neck punched in the clinch, you are right, fight should have gone to a TD, or been stopped right there and Lewis should have gotted DQ'ed, Vitali won. Thanks for proving it.

First you call a clear punch a fluke, now you are making up imaginary headbutts? Lennox's head NEVER touched Vitali's face in that entire exchange, not even close.

Why would you DQ the guy trying to punch his way OUT of the clinch? If Vitali doesnt want to get hit like that he has 3 options:


A. Use his two free hands to hit Lennox
B. Clinch harder
C. Dont initiate clinches in the first place

I enjoy it when clinchers get punished. Here is another clip of Vit trying to clinch and the fail...

[TheMagicMan]

the most hilarious part is Joe Calzaghe.

Uhh, Joe Calzaghe beat RJJ, who beat John Ruiz, Who beat Evander, who beat Tyson, Who beat Larry Holmes who Beat Ali, Who beat Archie moore (who knocked down Marciano) who beat ezzard charles who beat Joe Louis who beat Max Baer who beat Max Schmelling who beat Mickey Walker who beat Tiger Flowers who beat Harry Greb who beat Gene Tunney who beat jack dempsey who beat Jess Willard who beat Jack Johnson.

Clearly its pretty easy to see that Joe Calzaghe is the GOAT, he pretty much has wins over all of your legends and he has never been defeated. So yeah, like you to prove somehow Jack Johnson beat Joe Calzaghe? Cause Joe's lineage of massacres goes all the way back. And yes I know there are easier ways to prove he'd beat jack johnson, but i wanted to put some of the greats on there so youd know that joe calzaghe is the man.

[TheMagicMan]

First you call a clear punch a fluke, now you are making up imaginary headbutts? Lennox's head NEVER touched Vitali's face in that entire exchange, not even close.

Why would you DQ the guy trying to punch his way OUT of the clinch? If Vitali doesnt want to get hit like that he has 3 options:


A. Use his two free hands to hit Lennox
B. Clinch harder
C. Dont initiate clinches in the first place

I enjoy it when clinchers get punished. Here is another clip of Vit trying to clinch and the fail...

And just so you know only 45 tried and 45 lost, Joe gave one rematch in his entire career. Not because it was a close fight, but because he took Veit's 0, veit won like the next 15 fights and Joe took him again.

[Roger Yomama]

1. Joe Calzaghe- 46-0, over 20 title defenses. Didnt go down until his mid 30's. wins over legends HOpkinds, Jones, and Eubank. Wins over Kessler, Lacy and Veit all guys who were very very good. Joe was the best.

2. Floyd Mayweather Jr. Whats there to say that hasnt been said? Hes the man. Hard to put him number 2, but I just dont see a way that his style could match up with the southpaw dragon.

3. Vitali Klitschko- I love him, you love him, we all love him. Never been down, never finished a match behind on the score cards. A freak of nature.

4. Wladimir Klitschko- could overtake his bro someday. The more athletic brother, but with an acchilles heal called his chin. Hes learned to hide it and avoid punches to it.

5. Roy Jones Jr. - Freak athlete, afraid of British people was his only downfall. had he fought Benn or Collins or Eubank or beaten a joe calzaghe then he would be higher, but unfortunately he never did.

6. James Lights Out Toney- The beast

7. Lennox Lewis- Contrary to reports, the man didnt have that bad of a chin, watch the first round vs. Briggs. He took the mans best shots. I dont know how much he sparred, but in his 2 ko's he looked more stunned. In round 4 vs. Briggs he has felt the mans shots and stands there smiling at him. Big strong and skilled. No HW before his time would have stood much of a chance.

8. SRL- Had all the skills, was quick, the best of his time for sure, the boxing game has just passed his time up by a little bit.

9. Bad Chad Dawson- A man like Bad would murder an old timer like Marciano with speend and precision. He needs some better competition, but who knows how high or low he has to go to find it.

10. Marvin Hagler- A great great fighter who like SRL has just been a little bit passed by

Honorable mention -Pernell Whitaker, Paul Williams, Shane, JCC, and Erik Morales.

Are you high? The Klits?!! Dawson?!!! Cal****inzaghe?!!!! You need to invest in some dvds my friend.

[Roger Yomama]

Roy has a time machine

Prime Roy KO's Physics in the 1st

[BigStereotype]

Uhh, Joe Calzaghe beat RJJ, who beat John Ruiz, Who beat Evander, who beat Tyson, Who beat Larry Holmes who Beat Ali, Who beat Archie moore (who knocked down Marciano) who beat ezzard charles who beat Joe Louis who beat Max Baer who beat Max Schmelling who beat Mickey Walker who beat Tiger Flowers who beat Harry Greb who beat Gene Tunney who beat jack dempsey who beat Jess Willard who beat Jack Johnson.

Clearly its pretty easy to see that Joe Calzaghe is the GOAT, he pretty much has wins over all of your legends and he has never been defeated. So yeah, like you to prove somehow Jack Johnson beat Joe Calzaghe? Cause Joe's lineage of massacres goes all the way back. And yes I know there are easier ways to prove he'd beat jack johnson, but i wanted to put some of the greats on there so youd know that joe calzaghe is the man.

I spoke too soon. Using John Ruiz in a GOAT discussion is the best part. Seriously? John Ruiz > Evander Holyfield? Are you high?

[SBleeder]

Uhh, Joe Calzaghe beat RJJ, who beat John Ruiz, Who beat Evander, who beat Tyson, Who beat Larry Holmes who Beat Ali, Who beat Archie moore (who knocked down Marciano) who beat ezzard charles who beat Joe Louis who beat Max Baer who beat Max Schmelling who beat Mickey Walker who beat Tiger Flowers who beat Harry Greb who beat Gene Tunney who beat jack dempsey who beat Jess Willard who beat Jack Johnson.

Clearly its pretty easy to see that Joe Calzaghe is the GOAT, he pretty much has wins over all of your legends and he has never been defeated. So yeah, like you to prove somehow Jack Johnson beat Joe Calzaghe? Cause Joe's lineage of massacres goes all the way back. And yes I know there are easier ways to prove he'd beat jack johnson, but i wanted to put some of the greats on there so youd know that joe calzaghe is the man.

Go Hagler must be second best ever since he beat Roy Jones Jr., huh?

[Panthershock]

Uhh, Joe Calzaghe beat RJJ, who beat John Ruiz, Who beat Evander, who beat Tyson, Who beat Larry Holmes who Beat Ali, Who beat Archie moore (who knocked down Marciano) who beat ezzard charles who beat Joe Louis who beat Max Baer who beat Max Schmelling who beat Mickey Walker who beat Tiger Flowers who beat Harry Greb who beat Gene Tunney who beat jack dempsey who beat Jess Willard who beat Jack Johnson.

Clearly its pretty easy to see that Joe Calzaghe is the GOAT, he pretty much has wins over all of your legends and he has never been defeated. So yeah, like you to prove somehow Jack Johnson beat Joe Calzaghe? Cause Joe's lineage of massacres goes all the way back. And yes I know there are easier ways to prove he'd beat jack johnson, but i wanted to put some of the greats on there so youd know that joe calzaghe is the man.

Archie Moore knocking down Marciano is part of your lineage?? Thats as good as a win I guess, lets play by those rules then.
Alberto Alicea beat Bob Andrews who beat Robert Fredericks who beat Clinton Mitchell who beat Bernard Hopkins who knocked down Calzaghe.

I just determined using your logic that Alberto Alicea with a career record of 6-35 is the greatest fighter ever. What planet do you spend most of your time on?

[TheMagicMan]

Archie Moore knocking down Marciano is part of your lineage?? Thats as good as a win I guess, lets play by those rules then.
Alberto Alicea beat Bob Andrews who beat Robert Fredericks who beat Clinton Mitchell who beat Bernard Hopkins who knocked down Calzaghe.

I just determined using your logic that Alberto Alicea with a career record of 6-35 is the greatest fighter ever. What planet do you spend most of your time on?

Knocking down Marciano and beating his face in as well, but i didnt count it as a win and its more of a footnote rather than apart of Joe's lineage. Also, lets face it, Joe was pass prime when Bhop knocked him down and it was a fluke knockdown, Joe got up angry and proceeded to humiliate Bernard HOpkins. Do not make JOe mad cause he is amped already he took titles from fighters who were champs already.