Rank these 3 Heavyweights

[CiganoBoxer]

In terms of accomplisments?

Lewis
Holyfield
Tyson

(1)lewis(2)Holyfield(3)Tyson...lewis beat both,Holyfield beat Tyson

AGREEEEEEED

[Joeyzagz]

He did try to avenge that loss, but Douglas chose to fight Holyfield instead

You dont know what you are talking about

There was no rematch clause in the original contract and Buster chose to fight his no 1 contender which was Holyfield. There was a interview on youtube with tyson asking for another shot, but Douglas said it was up to his people to decide whose next

If Tyson REALLY wanted the fight he wouldve gotten it. Everyone remembers how the "eat his children" interview made the Lewis fight happen: despite Mike not having a license, despite having different promoters, despite being contracted to two different networks. Mike Tyson had more leverage than any boxer in history. Also with Don King by his side, , no boxer was out of reach for him.

Holyfield was scheduled to fight Seamus in June of 1990, Douglas/Tyson was in February 1990. I dont buy that excuse.

There was an 8 month gap for Douglas between Tyson and Holyfield, plenty of time for a rematch.

Tyson had a successful career, but he never lived up to his full potential
Lennox really delivered on his Vitali rematch, right?

Lennox was almost 38 years old fighting the #1 contender and dominant champ of the next era.

Vitali at 38 is fighting #25 ranked Eurobums like Sosnoski, and getting bruised by them.

I dont blame Lennox for retiring or Vitali for fighting bums. Once you reach age 35 as a boxer you should be allowed to do whatever you want. I love how people call Tyson past prime at age 23, but give Lennox crap for retiring at 38.

[GameGod]

Prime Skills:

1. Mike Tyson
2. Lennox Lewis
3. Evander Holyfield

Career Skills:

1. Lennox Lewis
2. Evander Holyfield
3. Mike Tyson

Career Wins and Losses:

1. Lennox Lewis
2. Mike Tyson
3. Evander Holyfield

Prime 1v1 Tournament:

This is the tournament I use to judge who is superior between fighters. Each one fights each other one 5 times in my mind, to get a score out of 10.

1. Lennox Lewis: 7/10 (4/5 against Evander, 3/5 against Mike)
2. Mike Tyson: 5/10 (2/5 against Lennox, 3/5 against Evander)
3. Evander Holyfield: 3/10 (1/5 against Lennox, 2/5 against Mike)

[sonnyboyx2]

If Tyson REALLY wanted the fight he wouldve gotten it. Everyone remembers how the "eat his children" interview made the Lewis fight happen: despite Mike not having a license, despite having different promoters, despite being contracted to two different networks. Mike Tyson had more leverage than any boxer in history. Also with Don King by his side, , no boxer was out of reach for him.

Holyfield was scheduled to fight Seamus in June of 1990, Douglas/Tyson was in February 1990. I dont buy that excuse.

There was an 8 month gap for Douglas between Tyson and Holyfield, plenty of time for a rematch.



Lennox was almost 38 years old fighting the #1 contender and dominant champ of the next era.

Vitali at 38 is fighting #25 ranked Eurobums like Sosnoski, and getting bruised by them.

I dont blame Lennox for retiring or Vitali for fighting bums. Once you reach age 35 as a boxer you should be allowed to do whatever you want. I love how people call Tyson past prime at age 23, but give Lennox crap for retiring at 38.

WRONG.... Vitali was NOT the No1 contender Vitali came in as a late subsitute after Canadian bum Kirk Johnson pulled out... Lennox Lewis always refused to ever fight the No1 contenders yet you repeatedly ignore that fact, you repeatedly make-up assumptions which are incorrect, infact you will say anything to try to discredit Mike Tyson so as to try to glorify Lennox Lewis but the truth of the tale is that Lewis avoided every single top rated fighter who was at the top of his game throughout his entire career... Lewis was so adamant that he would not fight a top contender that he was stripped of every belt for refusing..... Lewis claim to fame is beating Mike Tyson 12yrs after Buster Douglas and 6yrs after Holyfield had beaten him as well as Tyson serving several lengthy prison sentences..... Face up to the facts instead of trying to twist and exaggerate them to suit your nuthugging agenda

[Miburo]

Holyfield:
1988-07-16 202 James Tillis
1988-04-09 190 Carlos De Leon
12 lbs of muscle in 3 months is a lot to put on

Not really interested in getting into this but you're forgetting that he was cutting to make 190, he most likely didn't put on ANY muscle between those two fights. That example shows nothing.

[Toney616]

Not really interested in getting into this but you're forgetting that he was cutting to make 190, he most likely didn't put on ANY muscle between those two fights. That example shows nothing.

I dont think so, he was a lhw at the Olympics and weighed in around 177 lbs for his first pro fight

But you are right its a topic for another thread

[Joeyzagz]

Lennox Lewis always refused to ever fight the No1 contenders yet you repeatedly ignore that fact, you repeatedly make-up assumptions which are incorrect, infact you will say anything to try to discredit Mike Tyson so as to try to glorify Lennox Lewis but the truth of the tale is that Lewis avoided every single top rated fighter who was at the top of his game throughout his entire career... Lewis was so adamant that he would not fight a top contender that he was stripped of every belt for refusing.

The following broadcast from the year 2000 does not agree with what you just said. The link below will show who the top contenders were and as you can see Lennox beat every single one of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6t_c7RWy0yk#t=6m56s

Lewis claim to fame is beating Mike Tyson 12yrs after Buster Douglas and 6yrs after Holyfield had beaten him as well as Tyson serving several lengthy prison sentences.

Mike Tyson was a mere formality and does not define Lennox's career. What makes Lennox great is that he wasn't afraid to face the men who defeated him, and he retired with a win over every single opponent on his resume'. You can criticize him for not keeping up with the 4 different belts he held in 99' but the fact remains no boxer has been undisputed since and no one was undisputed in the 7 years prior.

[sonnyboyx2]

The following broadcast from the year 2000 does not agree with what you just said. The link below will show who the top contenders were and as you can see Lennox beat every single one of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6t_c7RWy0yk#t=6m56s



Mike Tyson was a mere formality and does not define Lennox's career. What makes Lennox great is that he wasn't afraid to face the men who defeated him, and he retired with a win over every single opponent on his resume'. You can criticize him for not keeping up with the 4 different belts he held in 99' but the fact remains no boxer has been undisputed since and no one was undisputed in the 7 years prior.

Once again you try to twist the facts to suit your nuthugging agenda, the link you posted does not show who the No1 contenders are it shows " 3 Top Young Heavyweights" - Not No1 contenders like what you are trying to insinuate.. The No1 contenders in 1990 was John Ruiz (WBA) who stripped Lewis of the belt for refusing to fight. Chris Byrd (IBF) who stripped Lewis of the belt for refusing to fight..

Lewis only agreed to fight those 3 Top Young Heavyweights after they was exposed as "Nothing Special" Michael Grant was floored in the opening round and almost knocked out by Andrew Golota with Golota then Quitting... here is a link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHb-OuNFL5c

David Tua was grossly out of shape when Lewis agreed to fight him, Tua weighed more than 20lbs heavier than he had when losing to Ike Ibeabuchi and was The Fattest man to ever fight for the title.

Vitali Klitschko was exposed by Chris Byrd quitting on his stool, he came in to fight Lewis as a late substitute and was on the verge of beating Lewis when the fight was stopped due to cuts... Lewis promised the entire boxing world that he would face Vitali in a return fight yet Lewis baulked as always.

Lewis was widely expected to beat the fighters who he fought because they was all tomato can or old hasbeens.. Lewis avoided every single fighter in the heavyweight division who was at "The Top of their Game" .... he was stripped of every version of the heavyweight title yet you come out with ****** statements that he beat everyone he fought... its the fighters he did refused to fight that leave the black mark against Lewis.. you repeatedly ignore that he was stripped of all his belts and the reason you ignore that fact is because you know it to be a fact and you cannot address it in your argument.... Take a look at the fighters who Lennox Lewis fought and you can see that Lewis was a huge odds-on favorite to beat them all because they was a bunch of tomato cans, yet if Lewis had fought Bowe 93 & 95, Tyson 96, Holyfield 94, Byrd 99, Ruiz 99, Sanders 97, Wlad 01, Vitali 03 then he would not have been the heavily favored favorite against any of them in fact Lewis would have been the betting underdog which is why Lewis never fought any of them.

[crold1]

Once again you try to twist the facts to suit your nuthugging agenda, the link you posted does not show who the No1 contenders are it shows " 3 Top Young Heavyweights" - Not No1 contenders like what you are trying to insinuate.. The No1 contenders in 1990 was John Ruiz (WBA) who stripped Lewis of the belt for refusing to fight. Chris Byrd (IBF) who stripped Lewis of the belt for refusing to fight..

Lewis only agreed to fight those 3 Top Young Heavyweights after they was exposed as "Nothing Special" Michael Grant was floored in the opening round and almost knocked out by Andrew Golota with Golota then Quitting... here is a link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHb-OuNFL5c

David Tua was grossly out of shape when Lewis agreed to fight him, Tua weighed more than 20lbs heavier than he had when losing to Ike Ibeabuchi and was The Fattest man to ever fight for the title.

Vitali Klitschko was exposed by Chris Byrd quitting on his stool, he came in to fight Lewis as a late substitute and was on the verge of beating Lewis when the fight was stopped due to cuts... Lewis promised the entire boxing world that he would face Vitali in a return fight yet Lewis baulked as always.

Lewis was widely expected to beat the fighters who he fought because they was all tomato can or old hasbeens.. Lewis avoided every single fighter in the heavyweight division who was at "The Top of their Game" .... he was stripped of every version of the heavyweight title yet you come out with ****** statements that he beat everyone he fought... its the fighters he did refused to fight that leave the black mark against Lewis.. you repeatedly ignore that he was stripped of all his belts and the reason you ignore that fact is because you know it to be a fact and you cannot address it in your argument.... Take a look at the fighters who Lennox Lewis fought and you can see that Lewis was a huge odds-on favorite to beat them all because they was a bunch of tomato cans, yet if Lewis had fought Bowe 93 & 95, Tyson 96, Holyfield 94, Byrd 99, Ruiz 99, Sanders 97, Wlad 01, Vitali 03 then he would not have been the heavily favored favorite against any of them in fact Lewis would have been the betting underdog which is why Lewis never fought any of them.

He did NOT refuse to fight Ruiz. He went to court to keep the WBA belt, after the WBA granted the Grant exception, with the promise of the date that went to Botha. Judge ruled against him because of King's smart WBA clause but when he moved towards Grant Akinwande, not Ruiz, was the mando and there was no way, or reason, for that rematch.

[sonnyboyx2]

He did NOT refuse to fight Ruiz. He went to court to keep the WBA belt, after the WBA granted the Grant exception, with the promise of the date that went to Botha. Judge ruled against him because of King's smart WBA clause but when he moved towards Grant Akinwande, not Ruiz, was the mando and there was no way, or reason, for that rematch.

The WBA gave Lewis permission to fight Grant then he must face their No1 contender John Ruiz but Lewis chose not to fight Ruiz and instead fought Frans Botha who was ranked No10... The WBA then stripped Lewis of their belt and Ruiz fought the No2 contender Evander Holyfield for the vacant title... here is a link below.

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-4529125.html