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  • #81
    Originally posted by nightowl View Post
    Yes, he did get knocked out.

    Result: Foreman TKO 2 Frazier.

    TKO is still considered a knockout. Only in your fantasy world do you not consider it a knockout so you can continue with your personal agenda.

    Right now, you're just stating something without giving an argument to back it up. Sorry, but that's not how you win debates.
    TKO =/= KO. Requirements of a glass chin is a KO.

    He got knocked down six times and he got up six times. How exactly is this a knock OUT?
    Last edited by Vadrigar.; 06-19-2010, 01:48 PM.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by MmuhammadM View Post
      TKO =/= KO. Requirements of a glass chin is a KO.
      Says who? You and you alone?

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      • #83
        Originally posted by nightowl View Post
        Says who? You and you alone?
        So what? prove otherwise.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by MmuhammadM View Post
          So what? prove otherwise.
          Go ask everyone else on this forum whether or not they agree with your ****** logic. Then you'll get your proof.

          You're nothing but a troll. You make false claims without backing them up.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by nightowl View Post
            Go ask everyone else on this forum whether or not they agree with your ****** logic. Then you'll get your proof.
            getting up six times from a man like George foreman proves otherwise.

            Look at the poll. who agrees with you?
            Last edited by Vadrigar.; 06-19-2010, 02:00 PM.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by MmuhammadM View Post
              getting up six times from a man like George foreman proves otherwise.

              Look at the poll. who agrees with you?
              I think getting knocked down eight times, with six of them in one fight, by the only power puncher he ever faced, is enough proof.

              A poll regarding Frazier's chin has nothing to do with how everyone perceives a knockout.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by nightowl View Post
                I think getting knocked down eight times, with six of them in one fight, by the only power puncher he ever faced, is enough proof.

                A poll regarding Frazier's chin has nothing to do with how everyone perceives a knockout.
                Well people don't just blindly and randomly vote. They have enough common sense to realise that Frazier did not have a glass chin.

                Yes and he got up six times against George foreman. It's ridiculous to suggest that a glass chin is capable of getting up six times against a man like George foreman.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by MmuhammadM View Post
                  Well people don't just blindly and randomly vote. They have enough common sense to realise that Frazier did not have a glass chin.

                  Yes and he got up six times against George foreman. It's ridiculous to suggest that a glass chin is capable of getting up six times against a man like George foreman.
                  Like I said, this poll is about Frazier's chin. Not what everyone thinks the requirements for a knockout are. Perhaps you shouldn't try avoiding this again, in your next reply.

                  Is it so ridiculous that a man has the heart and desire to fight on? No. You, on the other hand, refuse to acknowledge that the man had heart and only claim that his ability to get up after being knocked down six times in two rounds is from a cast-iron chin.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by nightowl View Post
                    Like I said, this poll is about Frazier's chin. Not what everyone thinks the requirements for a knockout are. Perhaps you shouldn't try avoiding this again, in your next reply.

                    Is it so ridiculous that a man has the heart and desire to fight on? No. You, on the other hand, refuse to acknowledge that the man had heart and only claim that his ability to get up after being knocked down six times in two rounds is from a cast-iron chin.
                    Yes and the question of frazier's chin is related to the George foreman fight. Most posters on this history section/NSB have probably seen it. Hence they draw their own conclusions.

                    I never claimed he had a "cast-iron chin". Show me one quote.

                    A large amount of heart can not overcome a glass chin. Your brain and your nervous system knows when it's time to shut down and no amount of heart can prevent/override the natural feedback of the body.

                    He got up from those knock downs because he was physically resilient, not solely due to heart.

                    All his heart really helped him to do was run face first into more viscous uppercuts. He was a man of pride and wanted to fight like a warrior.
                    Last edited by Vadrigar.; 06-19-2010, 02:30 PM.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by MmuhammadM View Post
                      Yes and the question of frazier's chin is related to the George foreman fight. Most posters on this history section/NSB have probably seen it. Hence they draw their own conclusions.

                      I never claimed he had a "cast-iron chin". Show me one quote.

                      A large amount of heart can not overcome a glass chin. Your brain and your nervous system knows when it's time to shut down and no amount of heart can prevent/override the natural feedback of the body.

                      He got up from those knock downs because he was physically resilient, not solely due to heart.

                      All his heart really helped him to do was run face first into more viscous uppercuts. He was a man of pride and wanted to fight like a warrior.
                      You avoided my point twice. I'll repeat it yet again: this poll is about Frazier's chin. Not what everyone thinks the requirements for a knockout are. Try not to avoid it a third time.

                      Apparently you have never watched a single boxing match in your life (including Frazier vs Foreman I) and only use false intellect to sum up your opinions.

                      Floyd Patterson is another heavyweight that is considered to have a glass jaw. He's never been "knocked out" by your definition, yet he's tasted the canvas more than any other heavyweight champion and got back up.

                      If he doesn't have a glass jaw, why was he knocked down so many times and why does everyone call him a glass-jawed fighter?

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