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  • Originally posted by MmuhammadM View Post
    where did I claim Mike Tyson interested me?
    Man, you seem to catch alot of **** for doing absolutely nothing. They must not like your hat.............Rockin'

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    • Originally posted by Rockin' View Post
      Man, you seem to catch alot of **** for doing absolutely nothing. They must not lie your hat.............Rockin'
      A few trolls and ALT like "frankenfrank" have pooped up recently.
      Last edited by Vadrigar.; 06-27-2010, 04:34 AM.

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      • Originally posted by MmuhammadM View Post
        I think it's general pattern on this site. A developing hatred has started against Muhammad ALi in this 21st century and particularly in the last few years, especially on internet forums like BS.

        A few trolls and ALT like "frankenfrank" have pooped up recently.
        Just a bunch a haters............Rockin'

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        • Originally posted by Rockin' View Post
          Just a bunch a haters............Rockin'
          anyway what's your opinion on how this fight would turn out?

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          • Originally posted by MmuhammadM View Post
            where did I claim Mike Tyson interested me?
            So why did you post your ludicrous prediction (much earlier) in this thread ?

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            • Originally posted by frankenfrank View Post
              So why did you post your ludicrous prediction (much earlier) in this thread ?
              answer the question:

              where did I claim Mike Tyson interested me?

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              • Originally posted by MmuhammadM View Post
                answer the question:

                where did I claim Mike Tyson interested me?
                What a moron , now for every claim I will make you will request a quote.
                I didn't claim you claim Mike Tyson interests you , but you did post a ludicrous comment earlier in this thread , did you ?

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                • tua by ko.......

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                  • Originally posted by frankenfrank View Post
                    What a moron , now for every claim I will make you will request a quote.
                    I didn't claim you claim Mike Tyson interests you , but you did post a ludicrous comment earlier in this thread , did you ?
                    "So why is it the only boxers that interest you are Muhammad Ali (who has much better defenders than you) and to a lesser extent Mike Tyson (again) ?"

                    answer the question:

                    where did I claim Mike Tyson interested me?

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                    • Originally posted by frankenfrank View Post
                      So you don't give him props for fighting Lewis , Ibeabuchi (whom stopped Byrd) , Rahman (twice) , Moorer , Ruiz , Maskaev (whom stopped Rahman twice) and Darroll Wilson (whom stopped Shannon Briggs and was undefeated at the time he fought Tua) ?
                      Dude, I'm not a big fan of the hw's with the exception of a few fighters. Off that list I rate Ike and thats about it.

                      Rahman was basically a journeyman, who got lucky when he koed Lewis
                      Moorer was never any good at hw, dude got koed by a 45 year old
                      Ruiz is dreadful
                      Lewis is boring as hell
                      Oleg Maskaev isnt very good either, and has never beaten any half decent fighter
                      Originally posted by frankenfrank View Post
                      Ruddock was stopped in one of his fights with Tyson.
                      How many times was Ruddock stopped and how many times was Tua stopped ?
                      The first Tyson Ruddock stoppage was garbage thats why they had a rematch- you should know that
                      Ruddock was never the same fighter after those wars with Tyson, as shown in his subsequent fights
                      Originally posted by frankenfrank View Post
                      Tua had some nice late stoppages : Fres Oquendo , David Izon and Oleg Maskaev.
                      Just because he had some late stoppages, doesn't mean he doesn't fade in fights. He was hyperventilating against Byrd from around round 7 onwards
                      Originally posted by frankenfrank View Post
                      Ruddock was still KD'd by Tyson and was stopped in one of their two encounters.
                      And as you know he got up, as I said before the first stoppage against Tyson was garbage
                      Originally posted by frankenfrank View Post
                      He was also stopped by Lewis (whom also KO'd Tyson but did not even knock Tua down ) , Tommy Morrisson :yep: , and David Jaco :bukkake:.
                      When was the last time Tua was stopped , 1991 ?
                      Ruddock was never the same fighter after his two wars with Tyson, he had his cheekbone and jaw smashed during his second fight with Tyson.

                      Dude you cant be serious about bringing up Lewis's ko over Tyson, a shot fighter who basically quit after round 2.

                      Morrison could **** and was taking roids, and as I said before it Ruddock was never the same after Tyson II.
                      Originally posted by frankenfrank View Post
                      So he was shot against James Douglas , now I see.
                      Tyson wasn't shot, but he was past prime post Rooney, which was when his technical prime ended. He was physically prime but not technically prime.
                      Originally posted by frankenfrank View Post
                      Really ?.
                      Tua caught him a number of time with bodyshots and on a least two occasions caught him with left hooks to the head
                      Originally posted by frankenfrank View Post
                      So basically Byrd went through Tua's punches , wearing him down and almost stopping him late , Tua was lucky that bell rang in the 12th cause otherwise he would have been put to sleep by that mean punching machine.
                      Byrd was basically in front of Tua the whole fight, his game plan was that he wanted to be in the centre of the ring, he never fled for his life as you said. As the fight wore of you can see Byrd's confidence rising as he was willing to trade with Tua at certain points
                      Originally posted by frankenfrank View Post
                      Then why was he stopped more times than Byrd despite having a better chin , better offense and just as good defense ?
                      Don't you know anything about fighter's primes? A fighters prime is basically the period when a fighter is in their physical and technical prime at the same time. Post Rooney Tyson was post prime he stopped:

                      Jabbing
                      Bobbing and weaving
                      Slipping punches
                      Throwing combinations


                      He basically became a headnunter, throwing single punches. Tyson prime was basically the period from the Green fight to the Spinks fight. Post prison his heart was never in it anymore, he was just going through the motions to get paid.
                      Out of interest how many Tyson fights have you watched?
                      Originally posted by frankenfrank View Post
                      Tua is no Green , whomever he is.
                      How can you judge Tysons defense without watching a lot of his fights?
                      Tell me one fight during Tyson Prime when a fighter was able to land a lot of left hooks on Tyson?
                      Originally posted by frankenfrank View Post
                      And clinched , and evaded punches along the ropes by feinting and moving and also fled for his dear life .
                      Byrd never fled for his life, in fact in which rounds did he do it according to you?
                      Last edited by Toney616; 06-27-2010, 05:20 AM.

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